I don't really know too much about how the Osgi stuff works so I will defer
to you and others who use it in terms of what is best so this sounds ok to
me if it is needed.

On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 8:08 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As you know, ActiveMQ 5.19.x is in preparation with importants
> changes: JMS 2, Jakarta namespace, Spring 6, ...
>
> For ActiveMQ 5.19.x, I propose to change the OSGi packaging (client
> and broker). Today we have OSGi bundles for client and broker, with
> Karaf features installing all dependent features/bundles (spring,
> commons-*, etc).
> This approach has few issues:
> - any update requires SMX bundles or Karaf features, coupling ActiveMQ
> OSGi with Karaf (jetty, spring, ...)
> - it's very hard to install ActiveMQ OSGi without Karaf
> - we can have some side effects depending of what's installed in the
> Karaf runtime (we already had refresh issues in the past, amd
> cascading refresh)
>
> My proposal is to use a new uber bundle approach for ActiveMQ OSGi
> client and broker. The idea is to provide OSGi bundles that
> self-contains everything needed to use/run ActiveMQ. The export
> packages are the same, but the import packages will be very minimal,
> most the packages will go private.
> The advantage is that ActiveMQ OSGi doesn't depend on anything at
> runtime, it's just a single bundle to install (one bundle for client,
> one bundle for broker), no extra dependency (so not release
> dependencies like ServiceMix Bundles or Karaf features), dedicated
> classloader avoiding refreshes, etc.
> The only drawbacks are the size of the ActiveMQ client & broker
> bundles (as they ship other packages, is it really a big deal ?) and
> the fact that ActiveMQ won't share packages with other bundles (I'm
> thinking about Spring bundles for instance).
> It's basically using something similar to the apache-activemq
> distribution but in OSGi/Karaf.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>

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