Hi Justin,

So, the "best effort monthly" cadence is only for the latest active
branch. The other branches will stay "on demand".

Regards
JB

On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 6:00 PM Justin Bertram <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> To further clarify...
>
> The website indicates that there are currently 3 "Stable - Supported" series 
> - 6.1.x, 5.19.x, and 5.18.x. There is also 6.2.x which is "In Dev." Would 
> this new policy result in potentially 4 total releases per month?
>
>
> Justin
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 10:42 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I had a chat with Art, and he made me realize that this thread is not
>> super clear, both in terms of "why" and "how".
>>
>> So, to summarize the why, the intentions for a "best effort monthly
>> release cadence" are:
>> 1. "More predictable" releases cycle for our users, with a high level
>> expected release content.
>> 2. Faster features/fixes shipping for our contributors (and us ;) ).
>> At a high level, the goal is to even more grow our community (users
>> and contributors).
>>
>> I'm volunteering to start doing "best effort monthly" releases unless
>> there is any concern (starting in January).
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 5:41 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > It's up to the projects to decide their release frequency (so no
>> > guideline or rule at foundation level).
>> >
>> > My proposal (and the purpose) is to have a predictable release cycle
>> > for the users and ship fixes/updates faster.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > JB
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 9:36 PM Arthur Naseef <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Are there  guidelines or rules around release frequency?  If so, I'm not
>> > > aware - even when I did some releases.
>> > >
>> > > Are there any real concerns we want to address here?
>> > >
>> > > Art
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 1:07 PM Matt Pavlovich <[email protected]> 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > +1 on this approach. I think it may be clarified like this:
>> > > >
>> > > > “Best effort” once-per-month release for dependency updates at a 
>> > > > minimum
>> > > > for active LTS release steams.
>> > > >
>> > > > Example: v6.2.1 & v5.19.7, then v6.2.2, v5.19.8, etc.
>> > > >
>> > > > Then minor and major releases as needed or in the monthly release 
>> > > > window
>> > > > as it works out.
>> > > >
>> > > > -Matt
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Nov 11, 2025, at 11:24 AM, Christopher Shannon <
>> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Best effort is fine with me in that case. As long as it's not super
>> > > > > "strict", monthly works if we have stuff ready to go.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Dependabot would be nice, it would make the updates easier to have it
>> > > > more
>> > > > > automated if possible.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 11:55 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>> > > > > <[email protected]>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Also, something I'm proposing is to join the ATR initiative.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Regards
>> > > > >> JB
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 5:53 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>> > > > >> <[email protected]>
>> > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Hi Chris,
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Sorry I was not clear in my previous message: the intent is not to
>> > > > >>> have something strict but more as "best effort". If we don't have 
>> > > > >>> any
>> > > > >>> change, no need to release. But as soon as we have something, we 
>> > > > >>> can
>> > > > >>> ship asap.
>> > > > >>> So, I think we are on the same page ;)
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> About the dependency updates, I was thinking about
>> > > > >>> dependabot/renovatebot, but it's a separate discussion I will 
>> > > > >>> start :)
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Regards
>> > > > >>> JB
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 5:37 PM Christopher Shannon
>> > > > >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> Hi Jb,
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> In general, releasing more frequently is definitely good, and I'm 
>> > > > >>>> not
>> > > > >>>> against releasing monthly if there is stuff to release, but I'm 
>> > > > >>>> not
>> > > > >> really
>> > > > >>>> in favor of having any kind of super fixed release schedule 
>> > > > >>>> because a
>> > > > >> lot
>> > > > >>>> of issues come up from it and being flexible is important so i 
>> > > > >>>> think
>> > > > we
>> > > > >>>> might want to be a little be less rigid.
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>>   1. A guaranteed monthly release means something could go out 
>> > > > >>>> that
>> > > > >> has
>> > > > >>>>   very little changes. With ActiveMQ not a ton of changes happen
>> > > > >> every month
>> > > > >>>>   so many times there's not much to release and simple dependency
>> > > > >> updates and
>> > > > >>>>   minor fixes can be done in minor releases instead.
>> > > > >>>>   2. You can get into the opposite situation where stuff is ready 
>> > > > >>>> to
>> > > > >> be
>> > > > >>>>   released but we are stuck waiting for the release time. (this is
>> > > > >> not really
>> > > > >>>>   a big deal for a month long cadence but for longer it is)
>> > > > >>>>   3. Usually this causes more problems because dates get missed. 
>> > > > >>>> This
>> > > > >> is
>> > > > >>>>   all volunteer work after all, so I've seen a lot of situations
>> > > > >> where the
>> > > > >>>>   promised releases never go out on time. For Kafka for example, 
>> > > > >>>> they
>> > > > >> have a
>> > > > >>>>   release schedule and it is almost never on time. The releases
>> > > > >> always go out
>> > > > >>>>   later because of any number of delays.
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> I think we can certainly encourage faster releases but maybe be a 
>> > > > >>>> bit
>> > > > >> more
>> > > > >>>> flexible, something like:
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>>   - We can try and release monthly if there are things ready to go
>> > > > >> out,
>> > > > >>>>   but can be flexible and skip a month or 2 (nothing important to
>> > > > >> release,
>> > > > >>>>   other issues come up,etc).
>> > > > >>>>   - We can plan to release a major version at least once a quarter
>> > > > >> (ie.
>> > > > >>>>   6.3.0 or 6.4.0) if we skipped months
>> > > > >>>>   - If we don't release a major update for that month we can 
>> > > > >>>> always at
>> > > > >>>>   least do a minor update ie 6.3.1
>> > > > >>>>   - Release faster if something important is needed (this is 
>> > > > >>>> probably
>> > > > >>>>   unlikely) is fine too
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> Chris
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 11:08 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
>> > > > [email protected]
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>> wrote:
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>>> Hi folks,
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> In order to ship changes faster (I'm thinking of the discussion 
>> > > > >>>>> about
>> > > > >>>>> VirtualThread in Classic 6.2.0 for instance), and to have a
>> > > > >>>>> "predictable" cycle for our users, I would like to propose a 
>> > > > >>>>> monthly
>> > > > >>>>> release pace for ActiveMQ Classic.
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> For instance, it means that 6.3.0 can be released in December, 
>> > > > >>>>> 6.4.0
>> > > > >>>>> in January, etc.
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> The purpose is also to encourage contributors as their 
>> > > > >>>>> contributions
>> > > > >>>>> will be included in releases faster.
>> > > > >>>>> I also think that it would be a good way to be up to date with
>> > > > >>>>> dependencies (I'm thinking of the discussion about a bunch of 
>> > > > >>>>> Jira
>> > > > >>>>> regarding dependency updates in Classic 6.2.0).
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> Thoughts?
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> Regards
>> > > > >>>>> JB
>> > > > >>>>>
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