Yep. It could work with symbolic links. Tested it and with flit - both
wheel and sdist packaged code such symbolically linked file is dereferenced
and copy of the file is added there. It could be a nice way of doing it.

Maybe then worth trying next time if someone has a need?

J

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 12:39 AM Scheffler Jens (XC-AS/EAE-ADA-T)
<jens.scheff...@de.bosch.com.invalid> wrote:

> >>> As of additional dependency complexity between providers actually the
> additional dependency I think creates more problems than the benefit…
> would be cool if there would be an option to „inline“ common code from a
> single place but keep individual providers fully independent…
>
> >Well, we already  do a lot of inlining, so if we think we should do more,
> we have mechanisms for that. We have  pre-commits and release commands that
> do a lot of that. Pre commits are inlining scripts in Dockerfiles,
> shortening PyPI readme . The providers __init__.py files and changelogs and
> index documentation .rst (partially) are generated at release documentation
> preparation time, pyproject.toml for providers are generated from common
> templates at package building time and so on and so on :). So we can do
> more of that and generate common code, it's just a matter of adding
> pre-commits or breeze scripts. But again "can't have and eat cake" - this
> has the drawback that there are extra steps involved and even if it's
> automated it does add friction when you have to regenerate the code every
> time you change it and when you change it in another place than where you
> use it.
>
> Yes, also thought a moment about pre-commit. I#d be okay if we really
> in-line and have a pre-commit aligning the redundancy of python in folders.
> Might need to be an opt-in if only 10 of 85 providers are using common
> stuff and if we change a common line we probably do not need to affect all
> providers.
>
> As long as no Windows users trying to code for airflow (do we need to
> consider?) would it also work to use symlinks? Git can cope with this, I
> don't know if the python toolchain can de-reference a copy and are not
> packaging a symlink? Would be worth a test... would save the pre-commit and
> we even could selectively include common bla into providers as needed :-D
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
> Sent: Mittwoch, 21. Februar 2024 21:18
> To: dev@airflow.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Common.util provider?
>
> > if we have a common piece then we are locking all depending providers
> (potentially) together if common code changes
>
> Yes, coupling in this case is the drawback of this solution. You can't
> have cake and eat it too and in this case you trade DRY with coupling.
>
> > As of additional dependency complexity between providers actually the
> additional dependency I think creates more problems than the benefit…
> would be cool if there would be an option to „inline“ common code from a
> single place but keep individual providers fully independent…
>
> Well, we already  do a lot of inlining, so if we think we should do more,
> we have mechanisms for that. We have  pre-commits and release commands that
> do a lot of that. Pre commits are inlining scripts in Dockerfiles,
> shortening PyPI readme . The providers __init__.py files and changelogs and
> index documentation .rst (partially) are generated at release documentation
> preparation time, pyproject.toml for providers are generated from common
> templates at package building time and so on and so on :). So we can do
> more of that and generate common code, it's just a matter of adding
> pre-commits or breeze scripts. But again "can't have and eat cake" - this
> has the drawback that there are extra steps involved and even if it's
> automated it does add friction when you have to regenerate the code every
> time you change it and when you change it in another place than where you
> use it.
>
> J.
>
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 9:02 PM Scheffler Jens (XC-AS/EAE-ADA-T) <
> jens.scheff...@de.bosch.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Hi Jarek,
> >
> > At reviewing the PR from uranusjr for AIP-60 I also had the feeling
> > that a lot of very similar code is repeated in all the providers. But
> > during review yesterday I dropped the ides because if we have a common
> > piece then we are locking all depending providers (potentially)
> > together if common code changes.
> > As of additional dependency complexity between providers actually the
> > additional dependency I think creates more prblems than the benefit…
> > would be cool if tehere would be an option to „inline“ common code
> > from a single place but keep individual providers fully independent…
> >
> > Jens
> >
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> > ________________________________
> > From: Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2024 5:42:20 PM
> > To: dev@airflow.apache.org <dev@airflow.apache.org>
> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Common.util provider?
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > How do we feel about introducing a common.util provider?
> >
> > I know it's not been the original idea behind providers, but - after
> > testing common.sql and now also having common.io, seems like more and
> > more we would like to extract some common code that we would like
> > providers to use, but we refrain from it, because it will only be
> > actually usable 6 months after we introduce some common code.
> >
> > However, if we introduce common.util, this problem is generally gone -
> > at the expense of more complex maintenance and cross-provider
> dependencies.
> > We should be able to add a common util method and use it in a provider
> > at the same time.
> >
> > Think Amazon provider using a new feature released in common.util
> > >=1.2.0 and google provider >= 1.1.0. All manageable and we do it
> > already for common.sql. We know how to do it, we know what to avoid,
> > we know we cannot introduce backwards-incompatible changes, so we have
> > to be very clear what is and what is not a public API there, We could
> > rather easily add tests to prevent such backwards-incompatible
> > changes. We even have a solution for chicken-egg providers where we
> > need to release two providers at the same time if they depend on each
> > other. Generally speaking it's quite workable but adds a bit of overhead.
> >
> > Examples that we could implement as "common.util":
> >
> > - common versioning check with cache - where multiple providers could
> > reuse "do we have pendulum 2"
> > - more complex - some date management features (we have a few like
> > date_ranges/round_time). But there are many more.
> >
> > I generally do not love the common "util" approach. It has a tendency
> > to become a bag of everything over time. but if we limit it to a set
> > of small, fully decoupled modules where each module is independent -
> > it's OK. And we already have it in "airflow.util" and we seem to be
> doing well.
> >
> > WDYT? Is it worth it ?
> >
> > J.
> >
>

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