Are there Apache rules preventing us from switching to GitHub Issues?

That seems like it might better fit much of Airflow's user base.


On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 9:21 AM Jeff Payne <jpa...@bombora.com> wrote:

> I agree that Jira could be better utilized. I read the original
> conversation on the mailing list about how Jira should be used (or if it
> should be used at all) and I'm still unclear about why it was picked over
> just using github issues. It refers to a dashboard, which I've yet to
> investigate, but Jira is much more than just dashboards.
>
> If this project is going to use Jira, then:
>
> 1) It would be great to see moderation and labeling of the Jira issues by
> the main contributors to make it easier for people to break into
> contributing.
> 2) It would also be nice if the initial conversation of whether or not an
> issue warrants development at all happened on the Jira issue, or at least
> some acknowledgement by the main contributors.
> 3) Larger enhancements and efforts or vague suggestions still get
> discussed on the dev mailing list before a Jira is even opened, but after
> that, the discussion moves to the Jira, with a link back to the mailing
> list email for reference.
> 4) The discussion on the PR is only concerned with HOW the change/fix is
> implemented.
>
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> ________________________________
> From: James Meickle <jmeic...@quantopian.com.INVALID>
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 7:46:58 AM
> To: d...@airflow.apache.org
> Subject: Re: It's very hard to become a committer on the project
>
> Definitely agree with this. I'm not always opposed to JIRA for projects,
> but the way it's being used for this project makes it very hard to break
> into contributing. The split between GH and JIRA is also painful since
> there's no automatic integration of them.
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 9:29 AM airflowuser
> <airflowu...@protonmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm struggling finding tickets to address and while discussing it on chat
> > others reported they had the same problem when they began working on the
> > project.
> >
> > The problem is due to:
> > 1. It's very hard to locate tickets on Jira. The categories are a mess,
> > versions are not enforced. each use can tag,label and set priority at his
> > will. No one monitor or overwrite it
> > 2. It's impossible for a new committer to  find issues which can be
> > easy-fix and a "good first issue".
> >
> > My suggestions:
> > 1. Looking at the ticket system there are usually less than 10 new
> tickets
> > a day. It won't take too much time for someone with knowledge on the
> > project to properly tag  the ticket.
> >
> > 2. I think that most of you don't even check the Jira. Most of you submit
> > PRs and 5 seconds before opening a ticket (just because you must). There
> is
> > no doubt that the Jira is a "side" system which doesn't really perform
> it's
> > job.
> >
> > Take a look at this:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/AIRFLOW/issues/AIRFLOW-2999
> > a member of the community asks for committers for input but no one
> > replies. I doubt this is because no one has input.. I am sure that if a
> PR
> > was submitted you had comments. It's simply because you don't see it.
> This
> > is why I think the current Jira does't function properly. I think that
> > Github can perform a better role. All of you as committers are already
> > there and it's always better to work with one system rather with two. The
> > colors and labels of the GitHub as very easy to notice.
> >
> > Either way, what ever you decide something needs to be change. Either
> Jira
> > will be more informative or move to GitHub.
> >
> > Thank you all for your good work :)
>

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