Yes, as a starter I simply copied the set from HDFS service as ours are a
simple extension of standard configs.

Cos

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 03:26PM, Jaimin Jetly wrote:
> Hi Cos,
> 
> Are there any configuration files in the configuration directory of the
> service package (NSNN/configuration/) ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jaimin Jetly
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > No JS errors. but that seems to be the answer. GET on
> >
> > http://vmhost05-hbase3.bdva.wandisco.com:8080/api/v1/stacks/HDP/versions/2.1.WANdisco/services/NSNN/configurations?fields=*&_=1418424642224
> > returns "items" : [ ]
> >
> > for whatever reason.
> >
> > My service per Jaimin's request is here (pretty simple) as of now:
> >
> > <metainfo>
> >   <schemaVersion>2.0</schemaVersion>
> >   <services>
> >     <service>
> >       <name>NSNN</name>
> >       <displayName>WANdisco NSNN</displayName>
> >       <comment>WANdisco active-active Hadoop Namenode</comment>
> >       <version>1.9.9-hdp2.1</version>
> >
> >       <components>
> >         <component>
> >           <name>NSNAMENODE</name>
> >           <displayName>NameNode</displayName>
> >           <category>MASTER</category>
> >           <cardinality>ALL</cardinality>
> >           <commandScript>
> >             <script>scripts/namenode.py</script>
> >             <scriptType>PYTHON</scriptType>
> >             <timeout>600</timeout>
> >           </commandScript>
> >         </component>
> >       </components>
> >
> >       <requiredServices>
> >       </requiredServices>
> >
> >       <configuration-dependencies>
> >         <config-type>core-site</config-type>
> >         <config-type>hdfs-site</config-type>
> >         <config-type>hadoop-env</config-type>
> >         <config-type>hadoop-policy</config-type>
> >         <config-type>hdfs-log4j</config-type>
> >       </configuration-dependencies>
> >
> >     </service>
> >   </services>
> > </metainfo>
> >
> > Another issue, is that Ambari insists that I need ZK service although I am
> > explicitely have an empty list in <requiredServices> element.
> >
> > Thanks for your help, guys!
> >   Cos
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 02:26PM, Yusaku Sako wrote:
> > > Hi Cos,
> > >
> > > That should just work.
> > > Not sure why it's not working for you.
> > > You are using Ambari 1.7.0, right?
> > > Are you getting any JS errors in the browser?
> > >
> > > Yusaku
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The next culprit I see is "Customize Services" screen. Should I be
> > able to
> > > > customize my new (custom) service once I have assigned the hosts for
> > it?
> > > > 'cause I don't see a tab for my NSNN service in that screen of the
> > wizard.
> > > >
> > > > Is it supported at all or I'd need to find a different way to
> > configure my
> > > > addition?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >   Cos
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:22AM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:
> > > > > And it seems to be working in 1.7.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks everyone for your help - now into more detailed service
> > > > definition.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cos
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 08:45PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:
> > > > > > Ah! Very timely remark indeed! Will spin a new one in the morning
> > and
> > > > have it
> > > > > > a go. Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 07:25PM, Yusaku Sako wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Konstantin,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Custom services added via the API won't automatically show up in
> > the
> > > > UI if
> > > > > > > you are using Ambari 1.6.1 or below.
> > > > > > > Please try with Ambari 1.7.0.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Yusaku
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks Nate - that does the trick. With the command-line
> > upgrade +
> > > > a curl
> > > > > > > > call
> > > > > > > > to add my new service now I can see it among
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > http://vmhost05-hbase3.bdva.wandisco.com:8080/api/v1/clusters/DC-2/services
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The issues I still see are:
> > > > > > > >  - the service doesn't appear in "Add Service" wizard
> > > > > > > >  - even after getting added by POST'ing
> > > > > > > >    {"ServiceInfo":{"service_name":"NSNN"}} info, I don't see
> > the
> > > > service in
> > > > > > > >    the dashboard. It might be caused by some inconsistencies
> > in my
> > > > service
> > > > > > > >    definition as I can use the same procedure to add Tez
> > service,
> > > > and being
> > > > > > > >    able to see it in the dashboard.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Will dig a bit more into this tomorrow and report back if I hit
> > > > anything
> > > > > > > > new.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you all guys for your help - quite appreciated!
> > > > > > > >   Cos
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 05:11PM, Nate Cole wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Cos,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There is an ambari server command that should allow you to
> > > > switch the
> > > > > > > > version.  Here are the steps I took to change the cluster
> > version:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. Install a cluster as normal (I used cluster HDP-2.1 as the
> > > > stack).
> > > > > > > > > 2. In /var/lib/ambari-server/resources/stacks/HDP, copy 2.1
> > to
> > > > > > > > 2.1.TestStack
> > > > > > > > > 3. Shutdown ambari.
> > > > > > > > > 4. ran:  ambari-server upgradestack HDP-2.1.TestStack
> > > > > > > > > 5. Start ambari.
> > > > > > > > > 6. On the cluster admin page, verified at the top of the page
> > > > that the
> > > > > > > > cluster says "HDP-2.1.TestStack"
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hope that helps,
> > > > > > > > > Nate
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Dec 8, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 04:14PM, John Speidel wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> Cos,
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> I don't know why this is occurring.  I have not actually
> > ever
> > > > changed
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >> stack of a running cluster, my response was a result of my
> > > > > > > > understanding
> > > > > > > > > >> and talking to others that have done this.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> Hopefully somebody that has actually done this can
> > comment.
> > > > > > > > > >> In the meantime, I will see if I can find somebody that
> > may
> > > > may know
> > > > > > > > why
> > > > > > > > > >> this isn't working for you.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much - really appreciate your help! In the
> > > > interest of
> > > > > > > > full
> > > > > > > > > > disclosure: I am using 1.6.1 server, not sure if this is
> > of any
> > > > > > > > significance.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Cos
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <
> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>> release Thanks for the info John. I think I am getting
> > > > there, but not
> > > > > > > > > >>> completely....
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> So, here's what I've done:
> > > > > > > > > >>> - added service, bounced Ambari server
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> - curl to
> > > > > > > >
> > http://vmhost05-hbase3.bdva.wandisco.com:8080/api/v1/stacks/HDP/
> > > > > > > > > >>> says that I have new stack
> > > > > > > > > >>>    {
> > > > > > > > > >>>      "href" : "
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
> > http://vmhost05-hbase3.bdva.wandisco.com:8080/api/v1/stacks/HDP/versions/2.1.WANdisco
> > > > > > > > > >>> ",
> > > > > > > > > >>>      "Versions" : {
> > > > > > > > > >>>        "stack_name" : "HDP",
> > > > > > > > > >>>        "stack_version" : "2.1.WANdisco"
> > > > > > > > > >>>      }
> > > > > > > > > >>>    }
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> - ran update
> > > > > > > > > >>>  curl -u admin:admin -i -X PUT -H  'X-Requested-By:
> > ambari'
> > > > -d
> > > > > > > > > >>> '{"Clusters":{"version":"HDP-2.1.WANdisco"}}'
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > http://vmhost05-hbase3.bdva.wandisco.com:8080/api/v1/clusters/DC-2
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> The result was:
> > > > > > > > > >>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> > > > > > > > > >>> Set-Cookie:
> > AMBARISESSIONID=vueucwdh8p6mkmcygj803vi9;Path=/
> > > > > > > > > >>> Expires: Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 GMT
> > > > > > > > > >>> Content-Type: text/plain
> > > > > > > > > >>> Content-Length: 0
> > > > > > > > > >>> Server: Jetty(7.6.7.v20120910)
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> However, running
> > > > > > > > > >>>        curl -u admin:admin
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > http://vmhost05-hbase3.bdva.wandisco.com:8080/api/v1/clusters/
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> Still gives me this....
> > > > > > > > > >>> {
> > > > > > > > > >>>  "href" : "
> > > > > > > > http://vmhost05-hbase3.bdva.wandisco.com:8080/api/v1/clusters/
> > > > > > > > > >>> ",
> > > > > > > > > >>>  "items" : [
> > > > > > > > > >>>    {
> > > > > > > > > >>>      "href" : "
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > http://vmhost05-hbase3.bdva.wandisco.com:8080/api/v1/clusters/DC-2";,
> > > > > > > > > >>>      "Clusters" : {
> > > > > > > > > >>>        "cluster_name" : "DC-2",
> > > > > > > > > >>>        "version" : "HDP-2.1"
> > > > > > > > > >>>      }
> > > > > > > > > >>>    }
> > > > > > > > > >>>  ]
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> Any ideas/hints? Thank you very much for your help!
> > > > > > > > > >>>  Cos
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 08:08PM, John Speidel wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Cos,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Yes, if you are able to push a new stack to the ambari
> > > > server hosts
> > > > > > > > > >>>> filesystem, you can use a REST api call to update the
> > > > cluster to be
> > > > > > > > > >>>> associated with the new stack.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> So, the steps would would look like this:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> - install cluster with existing stack
> > > > > > > > > >>>> - create new stack with additional services/components
> > > > > > > > > >>>> - write the new stack to the filesystem of the ambari
> > > > server host
> > > > > > > > > >>>> - bounce ambari server
> > > > > > > > > >>>>  -- after the server restart, the hash of the stacks
> > > > directory is
> > > > > > > > > >>>> recalculated which will result in the new updated stack
> > to
> > > > be
> > > > > > > > pushed to
> > > > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> agents (not immediate, the check of the stack dir hash
> > > > occurs every
> > > > > > > > n(not
> > > > > > > > > >>>> sure of exact value) heartbeats from the agents)
> > > > > > > > > >>>> - do an update (PUT)  on the cluster resource changing
> > the
> > > > value of
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >>>> Clusters/version property to point to the new stack
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> When these steps are completed the new
> > service/components
> > > > should be
> > > > > > > > > >>>> recognized by ambari.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> -John
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <
> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Hi John.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks for more info. I'd like to pry more for a little
> > > > bit of
> > > > > > > > > >>> information
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> (in-lined):
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 04:19PM, John Speidel wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Hi Cos,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> As mentioned above, it isn't currently possible to
> > > > augment an
> > > > > > > > > >>> existing
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> stack at runtime with new services/components.  You
> > could
> > > > possibly
> > > > > > > > > >>> change
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> the stack associated with a running cluster to a new
> > > > stack which
> > > > > > > > > >>> contains
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> the required services/components, but this new stack
> > > > definition
> > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> need
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> to be available to ambari so it really isn't very
> > > > dynamic.  We
> > > > > > > > > >>> understand
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Let me describe this scenario as I understood this.
> > Let's
> > > > say I
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > >>> two
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> stacks:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>  - StackA (with usual set of components), currently
> > > > installed on a
> > > > > > > > > >>> cluster
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>  - StackB == StackA + ComponentX
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> So, if I add StackB definition to the Ambari server and
> > > > restart it,
> > > > > > > > > >>> will I
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> be
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> able to switch from StackA to StackB _without_
> > > > resintalling the
> > > > > > > > > >>> cluster,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> and
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> then add/configure ComponentX's service?
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> If my depiction is correct then it might be an
> > acceptable
> > > > > > > > workaround
> > > > > > > > > >>> in the
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> absence of dynamic extensibility.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> that going forward that the stack framework will need
> > to
> > > > be more
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> extensible
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> and dynamic as additional stack definitions are
> > created.
> > > > Some of
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> underlying work to make stack processing more flexible
> > > > has already
> > > > > > > > > >>> been
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> done in anticipation of new requirements in this area.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Shivaji Dutta, in an offline email exchange, pointed
> > me to
> > > > > > > > AMBARI-7175
> > > > > > > > > >>> and
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> AMBARI-7201, which is seemingly going into the right
> > > > direction, but
> > > > > > > > > >>> still
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> would require a stack re-definition, if I read it
> > right.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> This is actually the second time that this scenario
> > has
> > > > came up
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > >>> me
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> today so it would be nice to get a Jira filed for an
> > > > enhancement
> > > > > > > > > >>> where
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> community can start to discuss the associated use
> > cases.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> I will start a JIRA and put together the set of
> > > > requirements.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Regards,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>  Cos
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> -John
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <
> > > > > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks for chiming in, Erin! Do you know if there's
> > any
> > > > plan to
> > > > > > > > > >>> have
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> dynamic
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> extensibility for services? For instance, Cloudera
> > > > Manager has
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> concept of
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Custom Services. And while it was done as an added
> > late
> > > > fix for
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> parcels, it
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> provides a way of adding new software components
> > into an
> > > > existing
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Hadoop
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> cluster. Which seems to be a pretty handy concept,
> > > > considering
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> liquid
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> state of the whole Hadoop ecosystem.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> It seems that this functionality, if desired, is
> > going
> > > > to be
> > > > > > > > brand
> > > > > > > > > >>> new
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> and
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> as
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> such require not just development but also
> > > > re-consideration at
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> design
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> level. Am I right? Appreciate the thoughts!
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> The best part of active-active masters paradigm is
> > that
> > > > a client
> > > > > > > > > >>> can
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> work
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> with
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> either of them without a concern of which one is
> > ahead
> > > > or behind
> > > > > > > > > >>> of the
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> rest
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> as they are equal. Essentially this solves some major
> > > > issues that
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> pester
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> active-standby solutions.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> And yes, we do install the services to the cluster's
> > > > nodes as you
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> suggested in
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> the later part of your email - after all they are
> > just
> > > > Linux
> > > > > > > > > >>> daemons
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> (although
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Ambari tries to hide the fact for whatever reason
> > that
> > > > is).
> > > > > > > > However
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> this
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> presents the core of the very issue: Ambari isn't
> > aware
> > > > about
> > > > > > > > > >>> services
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> installed outside of its realm, and it doesn't
> > provide
> > > > any
> > > > > > > > > >>> monitoring
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> or
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> life-cycle management for those. And because of that
> > I
> > > > am trying
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> figure
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> out
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> what can be done in this regards to have this
> > dynamism.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> With regards,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>  Cos
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 08:41AM, Erin Boyd wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi Cos,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Currently, adding services dynamically is not
> > supported
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > > >>> Ambari.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> It is
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> generally done, as you mentioned through the
> > creation
> > > > of a stack
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> with the
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> services definition defined within in.  I also don't
> > > > believe we
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> currently
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> support multiple masters on the same cluster.  How
> > > > would one
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> deferientiate
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> which master it should be using in such an
> > environment?
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Of course services can be installed independent of
> > > > Ambari on the
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> hosts
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> inside the cluster...but I don't think that is what
> > you
> > > > are
> > > > > > > > > >>> getting
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> at.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Are
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> you expecting the services to have a presence on
> > the UI
> > > > though
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> installed
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> outside of Ambari?
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Erin
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> From: "Konstantin Boudnik" <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 6:42:30 PM
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Subject: About extensibility of Ambari stacks (not
> > > > inheritance)
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Guys,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I am looking into possible stack extensibility
> > > > properties of
> > > > > > > > > >>> Ambari
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> (not
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> to be
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> confused with inheritance), but haven't been able to
> > > > derive any
> > > > > > > > > >>> final
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> conclusions just yet. Hence, I'd appreciate the
> > input
> > > > from the
> > > > > > > > > >>> people
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> behind
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the system.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I have a few questions about current state of the
> > Ambari
> > > > > > > > (version
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> 1.6.1
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> coming 1.7, and possibly later?) with regards to
> > > > ability to
> > > > > > > > > >>> expand an
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> existing
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> stack definitions with a 3rd party services and do
> > it
> > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > >>> runtime,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> rather
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> than only during the installation. We need to be
> > able
> > > > to run a
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> multiple
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> instances of our master service in the cluster,
> > which
> > > > isn't
> > > > > > > > > >>> typical
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> for
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> "normal" Hadoop concept where only one master can
> > exist
> > > > for any
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> giving
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> service.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Our use case is to be able to amend an exiting
> > cluster
> > > > setup
> > > > > > > > > >>> (HDP,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Bigtop,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> etc.) with a new service running on top of HDFS; but
> > > > not to
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> reinstall the
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> whole stack. The reason we have the use case is that
> > > > oftentimes
> > > > > > > > > >>> our
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> software
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> is being added to an existing 3rd party
> > environment, as
> > > > an added
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> bonus,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> not
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> available during the initial planning and setup of
> > the
> > > > cluster.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> The way I understand Ambari's stack inheritance is
> > that
> > > > a scion
> > > > > > > > > >>> stack
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> will
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> be a brand new entity, e.g. I won't be able to
> > > > cherry-pick
> > > > > > > > > >>> services
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> from
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> and add them to the already installed parent stack's
> > > > cluster,
> > > > > > > > > >>> right?
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> So far from I see it doesn't seem possible without
> > > > introducing a
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> brand-new
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> version of a stack e.g. 'stack inheritance'. Which,
> > > > > > > > > >>> unfortunately,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> won't
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> work
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> as per my explanation of the use above case. I guess
> > > > another way
> > > > > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> look
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> at it
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> is this: would it be possible to add a component
> > (or a
> > > > service)
> > > > > > > > > >>> that
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> will
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> override an existing component or a service, but
> > > > without a need
> > > > > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> reinstall
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the rest of the stack?
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any info/ideas.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>  Cos
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