Based on the discussion I'll update contributor/committer guidelines to

1. ask a contributor to close PR when (s)he is not ready to work on it in a timely manner
2. allow committers to close inactive PR after 2 month of inactivity

Any objections to closing existing (currently open) PRs that are inactive for 2 month?

Thank you,

Vlad

On 9/24/17 21:19, Vlad Rozov wrote:
Assuming that a contributor tries to open new PR using the same remote branch as the original PR instead of re-opening closed PR, github provides a notification reminding that one already exists, so I don't see why people will generally miss the old PR.

The only case where closed PR can't be re-open is when the original (remote) branch was deleted and re-created or after a forced push to the original remote branch (that github can't distinguish from deleted and re-created branch). Would you agree that a forced push for a PR that was inactive for a significant period of time should be avoided as it will be impossible for reviewers to recollect comments without ability to see the old patch they (comments) apply to?

Thank you,

Vlad

On 9/24/17 15:27, Pramod Immaneni wrote:
If PR is open, the previous comments are available in the same context as new discussions. There is no need to remember to go back to a previous closed PR to figure out what was discussed or what is outstanding. People will generally miss the old PR and will either not reopen it or will go through it, so its possible previous reviewers concerns would be lost. Also I don’t think three months is not an unreasonable time to leave PRs open, two could work.

On Sep 24, 2017, at 2:56 PM, Vlad Rozov <vro...@apache.org> wrote:

If a PR is closed due to inactivity and a contributor fails to remember that he/she open a PR in the past, what is the chance that a committer can recollect what was discussed on a PR (whether it stays open or is closed) that was inactive for 2-3 month :)? IMO, we should try to optimize process for good community members (those who follow contributor guidelines) and not those who do not follow.

Thank you,

Vlad

On 9/24/17 09:29, Pramod Immaneni wrote:
On Sep 24, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org> wrote:

On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Pramod Immaneni <pra...@datatorrent.com <mailto:pra...@datatorrent.com>>
wrote:

On Sep 24, 2017, at 8:28 AM, Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org> wrote:

+1 for closing inactive PRs after documented period of inactivity
(contributor guidelines)

There is nothing "draconian" or negative about closing a PR, it is a
function that github provides that should be used to improve
collaboration.
PR is a review tool, it is not good to have stale or abandoned PRs
sitting
as open. When there is no activity on a PR and it is waiting for action
by
the contributor (not ready for review), it should be closed and then re-opened once the contributor was able to move it forward and it becomes
ready for review.

Thomas
Please refer to my email again, I am not against closing PR if there is inactivity. My issue is with the time period. In reality, most people will create new PRs instead of reopening old ones and the old context/comments
will be forgotten and not addressed.


Why will contributors open new PRs even in cases where changes are
requested on an open PR? Because it is not documented or reviewers don't
encourage the proper process? We should solve that problem.
In cases where PR was closed due to inactivity and the contributor comes back later to work on it, they are likely going to create a new PR as opposed to finding the closed one and reopening it. The guidelines can include proper process but most likely this is one of those things that will require checking on the committers part.




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