Ilya,

Completely agree about starting from scratch. My suggestion to clone
the examples repo which
contains the entire TopNWords example project was in response to your
suggestion in item 5 of
your message.

For a simpler "Hello World" project, the steps at
https://docs.datatorrent.com/apex_development_setup/
should work -- it involves running a just a couple of commands on the
comand line and, for those wanting
an even simpler process, a script is provided that automates things
even further.

A similarly super-simple approach to gettting started is outlined in
my blog: https://www.datatorrent.com/buildingapps/
People can directly run many of the existing demos after building core
and malhar and then
experiment with modifying the sources of those demos.

For a more substantial example like Top N Words, there is a fair bit
of code needed in multiple files;
the process outlined in the tutorial on the website is simply trying
to save some time by copying
existing files over from Malhar and making the minimal changes needed
to incorporate them into
a standalone project.

For someone wanting to get involved with Apex, I think it is
imperative to get familiar with running tools like
git and maven from the command line, so the tutorials rely on those tools.

Please let me know if you run into problems with any of the above steps.

Ram

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Ganelin, Ilya
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Ram - the use case I'm targeting is having someone create a new project from 
> scratch based on an example. This is a little bit different. This is why I 
> was basing it on the documentation from the website.
>
> The above is a necessity for getting new members involved with the project.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
> Ilya Ganelin
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Munagala Ramanath [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 01:50 PM Eastern Standard Time
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Word Count Tutorial Failure
>
>
> Ilya,
>
> Could you please clone: https://github.com/DataTorrent/examples
> You'll find the complete project in tutorials/topnwords/app
> You should be able to build it successfully with: mvn clean package 
> -DskipTests
> I just tried it. Let me know if you run into any issues.
>
> Ram
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Ganelin, Ilya
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi all – I just attempted to follow the instructions here:
>> http://docs.datatorrent.com/tutorials/topnwords-c2/
>>
>> For standing up top N words in Java.
>>
>> As it stands, things did not work. I was using IntelliJ Idea 14. There were 
>> a number of issues, a short (not comprehensive) list is below.
>>
>>  1.  There are discrepancies between the selected language level in the 
>> project settings and certain constructs in the code
>>     *   In WordReader.java diamonds are used, which are only supported in 
>> java 7 but the language level is set to 5
>>  2.  The apex version is out of date in the pom.xml file (it’s set to 2.2)
>>  3.  ApplicationWithQuerySupport.java does not compile with newer versions 
>> of Apex
>>
>> I spent about 15 minutes trying to get this thing to work in its present 
>> state and it simply was not an easy and ready to roll example.
>>
>> General thoughts:
>>
>>  1.  We should not be asking users to manually copy example files from one 
>> place to another
>>  2.  We should not be asking them to rename packages to get things to work
>>  3.  We should not be asking them to modify existing example code to 
>> construct another example.
>>     *   I think a better approach is to provide a complete example (that 
>> works out of the box) and that we can then walk through line by line to 
>> explain what it’s doing.
>>  4.  We shouldn’t be asking them to copy-paste in settings. Instead, we 
>> should walk them through what it means to set settings and have a simple 
>> enough example that it’s straightforward to configure.
>>  5.  Standing up a word count example should be a 1-button-click deployment 
>> that is ready to run without any user input. Any further configuration 
>> should only be necessary for the sake of teaching, not for the sake of 
>> operationalizing the project.
>>
>> I hope this helps, I’m happy to offer further feedback. Thanks!
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