How about also supporting a minor variation of it as an option
> where it greedily gets the total number of containers and discards ones it
> can't use and repeats the process for the remaining till everything has
> been allocated.


This is problematic as with resource preemption these containers will be
potentially taken away from other applications and then thrown away.




> Also does it make sense to support anti-cluster affinity?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Isha Arkatkar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> >    We want add support for Anti-affinity in Apex to allow applications to
> > launch specific physical operators on different nodes(APEXCORE-10
> > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/APEXCORE-10>). Want to request
> your
> > suggestions/ideas for the same!
> >
> >   The reasons for using anti-affinity in operators could be: to ensure
> > reliability, for performance reasons (such as application may not want 2
> > i/o intensive operators to land on the same node to improve performance)
> or
> > for some application specific constraints(for example,  2 partitions
> cannot
> > be run on the same node since they use same port number). This is the
> > general rationale for adding Anti-affinity support.
> >
> > Since, Yarn does not support anti-affinity yet (YARN-1042
> > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-1042>), we need to implement
> > the logic in AM. Wanted to get your views on following aspects for this
> > implementation:
> >
> > *1. How to specify anti-affinity for physical operators/partitions in
> > application:*
> >     One way for this is to have an attribute for setting anti-affinity at
> > the logical operator context. And an operator can set this attribute with
> > list of operator names which should not be collocated.
> >      Consider dag with 3 operators:
> >      TestOperator o1 = dag.addOperator("O1", new TestOperator());
> >      TestOperator o2 = dag.addOperator("O2", new TestOperator());
> >      TestOperator o3 = dag.addOperator("O3", new TestOperator());
> >
> >  To set anti-affinity for O1 operator:
> >     dag.setAttribute(o1, OperatorContext.ANTI_AFFINITY, new
> > ArrayList<String>(Arrays.asList("O2", "O3")));
> >      This would mean O1 should not be allocated on nodes containing
> > operators O2 and O3. This applies to all allocated partitions of O1, O2,
> > O3.
> >
> >    Also, if same operator name is part of anti-affinity list, it means
> > partitions of the operator should not be allocated on the same node.
> > example:
> >     dag.setAttribute(o2, OperatorContext.ANTI_AFFINITY, new
> > ArrayList<String>(Arrays.asList("O2")));
> >     This indicates anti-affinity between all partitions of O2. i.e. all
> > partitions of O2 should be launched on different nodes.
> >
> >    Based on the anti-affinity attribute specified for logical operator,
> > during physical plan creation, we can add this list to each PTContainer.
> > This in turn will be available for Stram for sending container requests
> > accordingly.
> >
> >    Please suggest if there is a better way to express this intent.
> >
> > *2. How to implement anti-affinity in AM*
> >    There are 2 ways we can implement this:
> >   * a. Blacklisting of nodes: *We can group the physical container
> requests
> > based on anti-affinity requirements and send allocation requests for
> > containers in groups. After first group is done, blacklist the nodes
> before
> > sending second group of container requests. This will ensure that the
> > containers with anti-affinity requirements  will be allocated on
> different
> > nodes.
> > *   b. Node specific container request: *Explore and create a map of
> nodes
> > present in the cluster and send allocation request for container on a
> > specific node, honoring anti-affinity. There are couple of open Yarn
> Jiras
> > for node specific container requests: YARN-1412
> > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-1412>, YARN-2027
> > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-2027>. So, need to check if
> > this is a plausible approach.
> >
> > *3. Strict Vs Relaxed anti-affinity*
> >   Depending on cluster resources availability, it may not be possible to
> > honor all anti-affinity requirements specified.
> > *Strict Anti-affinity:* AM will keep trying to allocate containers as per
> > anti-affinity requirements indefinitely. This behavior will be similar to
> > how an application shows in ACCEPTED state, till resources are available
> to
> > launch in cluster.
> > *Relaxed Anti-affinity:* AM will drop the anti-affinity constraint after
> a
> > certain timeout.
> >
> > We need a way to set this attribute through application. (Either in
> > operator context or in DAGContext for application wide setting.)
> >
> > *4. How do we unit test this feature*
> >   We could use Mockito for mocking Yarn behaviors and test only AM
> > implementation, since it may not be easy to simulate some scenarios
> > manually in cluster. Please suggest if there are better ways to test
> this.
> >
> > Please suggest improvements or any other ideas on all of the above.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Isha
> >
> > P.S. Sorry for long email. Please let me know if I should start separate
> > threads for any of the above points.
> >
>

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