Does the gRPC service enables grpc gateway? If so, it’s easy for APISIX to
integrate it?

Zexuan Luo <spacewan...@apache.org>于2021年3月21日 周日13:35写道:

> Another solution is wrapping the C++ implementation of the GPRC
> client. But it requires you to prebuild the proto file into *.c source
> and can only be distributed as part of apisix-openresty.
>
> Zexuan Luo <spacewan...@apache.org> 于2021年3月21日周日 下午1:25写道:
> >
> > AFAIK, there is not library support making GPRC directly.
> > One solution is subrequest + http2grpc, but this way doesn't support
> > stream mode. So it is not a good solution.
> >
> > YuanSheng Wang <membp...@apache.org> 于2021年3月20日周六 下午10:53写道:
> > >
> > > LGTM
> > >
> > > > The biggest advantage of ALS, is replacing the physical local access
> log
> > > file.
> > >
> > > The APISIX has a plugin `http-logger`, I think APISIX is easy to report
> > > those data to SkyWalking.
> > >
> > > And I think we can try to use `gRPC` to report data. What do
> > > you think? @ming @spacewander
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 11:43 PM Ming Wen <wenm...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Cool, I think we can try ALS
> > > >
> > > > Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>于2021年3月19日 周五下午11:21写道:
> > > >
> > > > > We have run the Envoy ALS performance test a long time ago(2
> years, I
> > > > > think). Sadly, no public blog.
> > > > > It could easily support 10k-20k/s traffic with a very low load to
> the
> > > > > proxy. But, it is based on gRPC, so basically, it doesn't send many
> > > > things
> > > > > out, mostly only flags and latency value.
> > > > > APISIX is using HTTP1.1 mostly, so, this could be different.
> > > > > Also, at the same time, besides the ALS, we have a chance to
> provide a
> > > > push
> > > > > mode LUA SDK in skywalking meter format. It could provide URI-level
> > > > metrics
> > > > > at reasonable resource cost, especially it works with SkyWalking
> > > > satellite,
> > > > > which could leverage local disk to cache the data.
> > > > > The biggest advantage of ALS, is replacing the physical local
> access log
> > > > > file. So you have metrics, topology(dependency), and logs in one
> package
> > > > of
> > > > > data.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you want to discuss most ALS in APISIX, I am glad to help with
> the
> > > > > design and integration solution.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ming Wen <wenm...@apache.org> 于2021年3月19日周五 下午11:08写道:
> > > > >
> > > > > > yes, Prometheus is not designed for URI-level metrics.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does envoy ALS will send too much data and cause performance
> problems?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And I know skywalking will supoort envoy WASM, is there anything
> apisix
> > > > > can
> > > > > > learn from this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>于2021年3月19日 周五下午8:11写道:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi APISIX & SkyWalking community
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was discussing with Wei Jin about using Prometheus SDK to
> monitor
> > > > > > > URI-level metrics of APISIX/OpenResty.
> > > > > > > Wei received feedback that way of using Prometheus SDK causing
> > > > > > > a significant performance impact. From the observability
> perspective,
> > > > > > Prom
> > > > > > > is not good at gathering a large scale of entities' metrics
> due to
> > > > its
> > > > > > > local cache and pull mode.
> > > > > > > Instead, we should consider providing a push way like Envoy
> ALS[1]
> > > > and
> > > > > > > Metrics Service[2] did(it does through gRPC, and SkyWalking
> > > > recommended
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > the prod environment.
> > > > > > > If this is accepted and agreed by the APISIX community, we
> could look
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > implementation in the skywalking-nginx-lua[3] repo to collect
> > > > > > metrics(meter
> > > > > > > in SkyWalking) and use HTTP(in SkyWalking native meter format)
> to
> > > > > report
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This mail has been sent to dev@apisix.apache.org and
> > > > > > > d...@skywalking.apache.org. Please reply all when you discuss
> in the
> > > > > > > thread.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> https://www.envoyproxy.io/docs/envoy/latest/api-v2/config/accesslog/v2/als.proto
> > > > > > > [2]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> https://www.envoyproxy.io/docs/envoy/latest/api-v2/config/metrics/v2/metrics_service.proto
> > > > > > > [3] https://github.com/apache/skywalking-nginx-lua
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Ming Wen, Apache APISIX PMC Chair
> > > > > > Twitter: _WenMing
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ming Wen, Apache APISIX PMC Chair
> > > > Twitter: _WenMing
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > *MembPhis*
> > > My GitHub: https://github.com/membphis
> > > Apache APISIX: https://github.com/apache/apisix
>
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