> if we want have the marketplace, the version dependency is necessary.

No thanks. The marketplace is not even in the 2022 roadmap.

> if the plugin is independent. the user can write their own plugins, and
install it by apisix-dashboard or other method for dynamic installing.

Currently, we already support users to write their own plugin.

Fei Liang <bsch1...@gmail.com> 于2022年3月15日周二 15:37写道:
>
> > In fact, the split will make the situation more complex.
> > Now we require the `package.json` stuff and need to handle complex
> > dependency cases (like the apisix-base I mentioned in that issue).
> > These problems are not existent if we don't split the plugin.
> > We have to develop a custom new package manager to solve these new
> > problems. Why bother to create more problems?
>
> split the plugin, don't mean split the depend repo, if we wan't marketplace.
> in fact, the APISIX is also support the method. /apisix/plugins/ext-plugin.
>
>
> > Also, it is very tough to sync the schema between Dashboard & Ingress
> > control & other components, if each plugin has its own schema version.
>
> if the plugin is independent. the user can write their own plugins, and
> install it by apisix-dashboard or other method for dynamic installing.
>
> > BTW, even for developers, the split is also disaster when you try to
> > upgrade APISIX. The more we split, the more chain reaction we will
> > meet.
> > Dependency hell warning!
>
> split the plugin, don't mean split the depend repo, if we wan't have
> marketplace.
>
> if we want have the marketplace, the version dependency is necessary.
> in fact. Ecosystems cannot depend on APISIX. and the thirdpart.
> Most software that supports plugin, has the marketplace, eg vscode, emacs,
> vim
> or manual installation mode.
> All similar software faces this problem.
>
> > Compared with similar open source projects:
> > 1. Envoy doesn't and can't split filters out of the core
> > 2. Kong used to split some of the plugins out. But now they are merged
> > them back.
>
> i only proposal refactoring the plugins code organization.
> split the independent repo or independent directory could discuss. it only
> just depends on if we have marketplace.
>
> > We should not lead Apache APISIX to the wrong path, right?
>
> Only through discussion can we know whether the direction is correct or not.
> Instead of someone saying right is right, saying wrong is wrong
>
> Zexuan Luo <spacewan...@apache.org> 于2022年3月15日周二 12:46写道:
>
> > In fact, the split will make the situation more complex.
> > Now we require the `package.json` stuff and need to handle complex
> > dependency cases (like the apisix-base I mentioned in that issue).
> > These problems are not existent if we don't split the plugin.
> > We have to develop a custom new package manager to solve these new
> > problems. Why bother to create more problems?
> >
> > Also, it is very tough to sync the schema between Dashboard & Ingress
> > control & other components, if each plugin has its own schema version.
> >
> > BTW, even for developers, the split is also disaster when you try to
> > upgrade APISIX. The more we split, the more chain reaction we will
> > meet.
> > Dependency hell warning!
> >
> > Compared with similar open source projects:
> > 1. Envoy doesn't and can't split filters out of the core
> > 2. Kong used to split some of the plugins out. But now they are merged
> > them back.
> >
> > We should not lead Apache APISIX to the wrong path, right?
> >
> > Chao Zhang <zchao1...@gmail.com> 于2022年3月15日周二 11:48写道:
> > >
> > > Hi Fei,
> > >
> > > I have some doubts about the proposal:
> > >
> > > 1. Term Compile is too generic, could you give us some examples about
> > this
> > > process;
> > > 2. How could can help developers to integrate APISIX and this plugin, so
> > > that developers can test the plugin successfully;
> > > 3. I didn’t get the key point of package.json, the entry point code
> > > actually can be specified (such as from the init.lua).
> > >
> > > Chao Zhang
> > > https://github.com/tokers
> > >
> > > On March 15, 2022 at 10:54:47, Fei Liang (bsch1...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > >
> > > stable, the addition of the plugin will be dynamic and frequent.
> >

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