On 02 Jun 2011, at 1:19 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
On 6/1/2011 5:37 PM, Graham Leggett wrote:
I see a vote, and no on-list discussion that preceded it. Not only
that, I see a vote on
the dev@apr list proposing an as yet unheard of solution that
concerns a completely
separate project, with no discussion having happened on either
project. This is not how a
project at the ASF works.
Quit whining, of course this is how an ASF project works; there was
a discussion,
it ate up a good part of the list bandwidth, with discussion and
suggestions of
how to fix, and no fix forthcoming, and a conclusive decision on list;
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/apr-dev/200903.mbox/%[email protected]%3E
Justin had brought this to the list from a f2f hackathon for a
decision as this
blocked 2.0 in 2009(!).
"So, during the conversations we've had here in Amsterdam regarding
combining APR and APR-util". Another example of discussions taken and
decisions made off list.
This is not how an ASF project works, and wearing my PMC member's hat,
I consider this continued practice a risk to this project.
but you had years to set aside time, and couldn't be bothered.
I am thoroughly disgusted by this remark.
I have spent weeks and weeks of my time on my dime solving RFC
violations in mod_cache that were contributed to us in 2003, in
addition to a huge amount of other work on fixing the mod_cache API in
time for the imminent release of httpd v2.4, and this is simply more
important right now. A further enormous time sink was resolving your
issues you demanded fixed in the apr_crypto API, which you carried on
complaining about even after the work was completed - you'd hadn't
even noticed the work had been done.
The Apache Way is community over code, a community working together
makes for high quality code that is safe to build upon. When one
member of a community starts behaving abusively towards other members
of the community, the code suffers. Again, wearing my PMC member's
hat, this has got to stop.
(In the
interim, I had to set aside time to make the merge to mod_ldap -
that is
how the ASF works, [s]he who does the work makes the decisions.)
I have already declared my intention to veto any attempt to dump this
code in httpd. Our end users and vendors deserve to be treated better
than this.
Regards,
Graham
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