Maarten, I don't expect regressions for flat cases (I'm going to try to run
benchmarks comparison tonight).

In terms of the flag, I'm more concerned about some corner case I didn't
think of in testing or a workload that for some reason is better with the
prior code. If either of these arise I would like to give users a way to
mitigate issues so a patch release isn't an imperative.

I'm happy to cleanup the existing code as soon as the next release happens
though.

Thoughts?

-Micah

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:11 AM Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maarten -- AFAIK Micah's work only affects nested / non-flat column
> paths, so flat data should not be impacted. Since we have a partial
> implementation of writes for nested data (lists-of-lists and
> structs-of-structs, but no mix of the two) that was the performance
> difference I was referencing.
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:43 AM Maarten Ballintijn <maart...@xs4all.nl>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Micah,
> >
> > How does the performance change for “flat” schemas?
> > (particularly in the case of a large number of columns)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Maarten
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Mar 11, 2020, at 11:53 PM, Micah Kornfield <emkornfi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Another status update.  I've integrated the level generation code with
> the
> > > parquet writing code [1].
> > >
> > > After that PR is merged I'll add bindings in Python to control
> versions of
> > > the level generation algorithm and plan on moving on to the read side.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Micah
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/6586
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 9:07 PM Micah Kornfield <emkornfi...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Igor,
> > >> If you have the time https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARROW-7960
> might
> > >> be a good task to pick up for this I think it should be a relatively
> small
> > >> amount of code, so it is probably a good contribution to the
> project.  Once
> > >> that is wrapped up we can see were we both are.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Micah
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 8:25 AM Igor Calabria <igor.calab...@gmail.com
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Micah, I actually got involved with another personal project and
> had
> > >>> to postpone my contribution to arrow a bit. The good news is that I'm
> > >>> almost done with it, so I could help you with the read side very
> soon. Any
> > >>> ideas how we could coordinate this?
> > >>>
> > >>> Em qua., 26 de fev. de 2020 às 21:06, Wes McKinney <
> wesmck...@gmail.com>
> > >>> escreveu:
> > >>>
> > >>>> hi Micah -- great news on the level generation PR. I'll try to carve
> > >>>> out some time for reviewing over the coming week.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:10 AM Micah Kornfield <
> emkornfi...@gmail.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hi Igor,
> > >>>>> I was wondering if you have made any progress on this?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I posted a new PR [1] which I believe handles the difficult
> algorithmic
> > >>>>> part of writing.  There will be some follow-ups but I think this PR
> > >>>> might
> > >>>>> take a while to review, so I was thinking of starting to take a
> look
> > >>>> at the
> > >>>>> read side if you haven't started yet, and circle back to the final
> > >>>>> integration for the write side once the PR is checked in.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>> Micah
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/6490
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:08 PM Igor Calabria <
> igor.calab...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi, I would love to help with this issue. I'm aware that this is a
> > >>>> huge
> > >>>>>> task for a first contribution to arrow, but I feel that I could
> help
> > >>>> with
> > >>>>>> the read path.
> > >>>>>> Reading parquet seems like a extremely complex task since both
> > >>>> hive[0] and
> > >>>>>> spark[1] tried to implement a "vectorized" version and they all
> > >>>> stopped
> > >>>>>> short of supporting complex types.
> > >>>>>> I wanted to at least give it a try and find out where the
> challenge
> > >>>> lies.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Since you guys are much more familiar with the current code base,
> I
> > >>>> could
> > >>>>>> use some starting tips so I don't fall in common pitfalls and
> > >>>> whatnot.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> [0] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-18576
> > >>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/master/sql/core/src/main/java/org/apache/spark/sql/execution/datasources/parquet/VectorizedParquetRecordReader.java#L45
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 2020/02/03 06:01:25, Micah Kornfield <e...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Just to give an update.  I've been a little bit delayed, but my
> > >>>> progress
> > >>>>>> is>
> > >>>>>>> as follows:>
> > >>>>>>> 1.  Had 1 PR merged that will exercise basic end-to-end tests.>
> > >>>>>>> 2.  Have another PR open that allows a configuration option in
> C++
> > >>>> to>
> > >>>>>>> determine which algorithm version to use for reading/writing, the
> > >>>>>> existing>
> > >>>>>>> version and the new version supported complex-nested arrays.  I
> > >>>> think a>
> > >>>>>>> large amount of code will be reused/delegated to but I will err
> on
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>> side>
> > >>>>>>> of not touching the existing code/algorithms so that any errors
> in
> > >>>> the>
> > >>>>>>> implementation  or performance regressions can hopefully be
> > >>>> mitigated at>
> > >>>>>>> runtime.  I expect in later releases (once the code has "baked")
> > >>>> will>
> > >>>>>>> become a no-op.>
> > >>>>>>> 3.  Started coding the write path.>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Which leaves:>
> > >>>>>>> 1.  Finishing the write path (I estimate 2-3 weeks) to be code
> > >>>> complete>
> > >>>>>>> 2.  Implementing the read path.>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Again, I'm happy to collaborate if people have bandwidth and want
> > >>>> to>
> > >>>>>>> contribute.>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks,>
> > >>>>>>> Micah>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 10:31 PM Micah Kornfield <em...@gmail.com
> >>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hi Wes,>
> > >>>>>>>> I'm still interested in doing the work.  But don't to hold
> > >>>> anybody up
> > >>>>>> if>
> > >>>>>>>> they have bandwidth.>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> In order to actually make progress on this, my plan will be to:>
> > >>>>>>>> 1.  Help with the current Java review backlog through early next
> > >>>> week
> > >>>>>> or>
> > >>>>>>>> so (this has been taking the majority of my time allocated for
> > >>>> Arrow>
> > >>>>>>>> contributions for the last 6 months or so).>
> > >>>>>>>> 2.  Shift all my attention to trying to get this done (this
> > >>>> means no>
> > >>>>>>>> reviews other then closing out existing ones that I've started
> > >>>> until it
> > >>>>>> is>
> > >>>>>>>> done).  Hopefully, other Java committers can help shrink the
> > >>>> backlog>
> > >>>>>>>> further (Jacques thanks for you recent efforts here).>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks,>
> > >>>>>>>> Micah>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 8:16 AM Wes McKinney <we...@gmail.com>
> > >>>> wrote:>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> hi folks,>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I think we have reached a point where the incomplete C++
> > >>>> Parquet>
> > >>>>>>>>> nested data assembly/disassembly is harming the value of
> > >>>> several>
> > >>>>>>>>> others parts of the project, for example the Datasets API. As
> > >>>> another>
> > >>>>>>>>> example, it's possible to ingest nested data from JSON but not
> > >>>> write>
> > >>>>>>>>> it to Parquet in general.>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Implementing the nested data read and write path completely is
> > >>>> a>
> > >>>>>>>>> difficult project requiring at least several weeks of dedicated
> > >>>> work,>
> > >>>>>>>>> so it's not so surprising that it hasn't been accomplished yet.
> > >>>> I
> > >>>>>> know>
> > >>>>>>>>> that several people have expressed interest in working on it,
> > >>>> but I>
> > >>>>>>>>> would like to see if anyone would be able to volunteer a
> > >>>> commitment
> > >>>>>> of>
> > >>>>>>>>> time and guess on a rough timeline when this work could be
> > >>>> done. It>
> > >>>>>>>>> seems to me if this slips beyond 2020 it will significant
> > >>>> diminish
> > >>>>>> the>
> > >>>>>>>>> value being created by other parts of the project.>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Since I'm pretty familiar with all the Parquet code I'm one
> > >>>> candidate>
> > >>>>>>>>> person to take on this project (and I can dedicate the time,
> > >>>> but it>
> > >>>>>>>>> would come at the expense of other projects where I can also
> be>
> > >>>>>>>>> useful). But Micah and others expressed interest in working on
> > >>>> it, so>
> > >>>>>>>>> I wanted to have a discussion about it to see what others
> > >>>> think.>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks>
> > >>>>>>>>> Wes>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> >
>

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