Hi Wail,

I also just stumbled over http://sis.apache.org <http://sis.apache.org/> .
Maybe we could also see if they have something that we could use/reuse?

Cheers,
Till

> On Aug 10, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Wail Alkowaileet <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Till,
> 
> I'm not a "GIS-guy" but I used JTS to do simple geospatial operations
> (mainly point-in-polygon). I know JTS is under LGPL and their specification
> AFAIK is mapped to http://geojson.org/geojson-spec.html which under some
> standard format: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DE-9IM#Standards
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 3:19 AM, Mike Carey <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I like the proposal that - for the "simple JSON" - everything has a single
>> string format.
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/8/15 12:13 AM, Chris Hillery wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok, sounds like the consensus is that we want to keep circle. That's fine
>>> with me. To bring the conversation full circle (narf!), now the question
>>> goes back to how best to represent that type in JSON, given that the
>>> obvious options don't support it... but, that conversation should continue
>>> on the original thread.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Ceej
>>> aka Chris Hillery
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Chen Li <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I second Ted's argument.  The reason on
>>>> http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?23,148162,152625#msg-152625 is very
>>>> weak, since following that logic there will be no 100% lines or
>>>> rectangles on the surface of the earth.  But these shapes are very
>>>> useful.
>>>> 
>>>> I am sure there are use cases for circles, such as the Apple's new
>>>> headquarters.  A related question is: what's the overhead of
>>>> implementing and maintaining this type?
>>>> 
>>>> Chen
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Ted Dunning <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> There you go.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Another application.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Mike Carey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> AND:  What if NASA wants to use us to store its database of crop
>>>>>> 
>>>>> circles?
>>>> 
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/7/15 11:47 AM, Ted Dunning wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:23 AM, Chris Hillery <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've noticed that several geospatial serialization formats (at least
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "well-known text" and GeoJSON) omit "circle" from their list of basic
>>>>>>>> geometric forms, even when they have numerous more complex types such
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> as
>>>> 
>>>>> multi-curves. This led me to here:
>>>>>>>> http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?23,148162,152625#msg-152625
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> which offers a reasonably compelling argument for why "circle" is not
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> a
>>>> 
>>>>> reasonable shape to discuss in geospatial contexts (loosely, because
>>>>>>>> there's no consistent way to map that to a spherical coordinate
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> system).
>>>> 
>>>>> Actually, that argument is super-weak.  It also implies that you
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>> have lines (they aren't straight after projection) or squares (they
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> aren't
>>>> 
>>>>> square after projection). But lines and squares both before and after
>>>>>>> projection are very handy.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Circles are useful in many contexts. Drawing the visible horizon for a
>>>>>>> particular observer is a great example.  The flight range of an
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> airplane
>>>> 
>>>>> is
>>>>>>> another case.  Positional error bounds with Gaussian errors is
>>>>>>> another.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes. You can approximate it using splines or polygons.  But you can
>>>>>>> approximate anything that way.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> *Regards,*
> Wail Alkowaileet

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