Yes, I can see that the project is structured to allow such a thing, but the 
relationships and dependencies on components needed to start a usable kernel seems to 
change almost weekly (this is not a criticism... this is just a sign of active 
development) and are not documented.

Perhaps "formally" was the wrong word. What I meant was that having classes that 
provided this behavior as part of the official source tree and unit tests would 
insulate users (such as myself) from having to constantly analyze what new changes 
were made in the Phoenix source week to week and adapt to it just to keep this 
embedded launcher working.

Anyway, the development is quite simple, and I wouldn't mind doing it, but what is the 
proper mechanism for introducing such an initiative?

Terry

-----Original Message-----
From: Leo Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 10:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Possibility for a light weight Phoenix container


Terry Laurenzo wrote:
> So, my proposal is to begin defining such a set of components to be
> formally included within Phoenix instead of being developed as an
> add-on.

formally? What is your idea of formally?

> Currently, the add-on approach is difficult because the
> Phoenix source code is in such a state of flux.

flux? Hmm.

> Am I out in left field here or does anyone else have interest in such
> a thing?

definately (which is why those embeddor things were started :D). Many 
people have asked for an embeddable phoenix. It should be quite doable; 
enabling something like that is why we added the embeddor layer between 
launcher and kernel in the first place!

Bring on the patches, I say :D

(disclaimer: I won't actually be doing active development of phoenix in 
the forseeable future, so it might be up to you to motivate people to 
help you out ;))

cheers,

- Leo



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