In the current specification, it is fairly straightforward to implement an
Avalon container.  When would you suggest the container poll this new
isRunning method?  It would be preferable to have the component notify the
container if it shut itself down.  However, then you run the risk of
perverting IOC.

The Startable interface is simply a lifecycle interface that stipulates a
contract with the container.  The container does not really care what the
start() and stop() methods actually do -- or even what they start or stop.
The contract is simple, and I am opposed to complicating it.

Components are given the resources to manage themselves (that is the point).

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Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Startable doesn't has a isRunning() interface ?


> But that way you're putting a risk that the container might be out of
> sync with the real state of the component. All that to save having an
> extra function. I would think the downsides are bigger than the cost of
> having an extra function to check the state of the component. Otherwise
> most people will implement that function but it won't be standard,
> reducing potential reusability, and causing pains to people who want to
> incorporate dynamic administration capabilities in the container.
>
> Jonathan Hawkes wrote:
> > Yes.  An isRunning() method would not be useful to the container.  The
> > container knows whether the startable isRunning or not (ie: it has
called
> > start() and not stop() ).
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Yannick Menager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:17 AM
> > Subject: Startable doesn't has a isRunning() interface ?
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> >
> >
> >>Is there any reason Startable doesn't has a isRunning() ( or something
> >>like that ) interface ?
> >>
> >>
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