On Friday 28 May 2004 20:13, Leo Simons wrote: > sorry about that. Hope you can put it to productive use in some way :-D
A lot more positive pieces in this round :o) Thanks for that. > > I disagree. If you are only making incremental chagnes to something > > 'better", you will either not be able to reach a goal, or have something > > much worse on the way. i.e. If you are on a local maximum, you can't > > reach an ultimate maximum with reduction of your achieved altitude. > > > :-D. Now you're speaking my language... > The fact that this is not possible indicates we do not have orthogonal > concerns at all! What is the relationships between these concerns? To start with, you have in the 'current site' a navigation.xml that requires everything 'navigatable' to be present in each such file. I.e. you need to modify a dozen or so files if you move a single document. For directories it varies from a dozen places to worst case scenario of hundreds of changes. This alone is an unbearable situation, which has been resolved (the navigation.xml now only contain the 'local' content, and navigation is aggregated by the xslt/build system. So, reorganizing without changing the look is bound for disaster and enormous amount of work down the drain. Fixing the navigation.xml under Maven+Jelly is not something I even want to try, after so much headaches with Maven earlier. Finally, creating a copy of the existing look just for the sake of making smaller steps, knowing it will be thrown away in N days/weeks, is also not very motivating. Hence, navigation + look sits in the same generator and was done in one step. Content organization was mainly left out for later. > and here's our disagreement :-D > > You start with making something useful, then you make it pretty. We don't have "something useful". What we have is 'useless' due to the navigation.xml. :o( > I thought you were looking for feedback in > general, which turned out to not be entirely true. I hope I can spur some more people to help out more actively in the content organization, both in proposal of structures but also go in and do some gritty dirty SVN work. Cheers Niclas P.S. As for the Download, you won't find it. It doesn't exist. I haven't looked into the download.html+download.cgi to see how it is hanging together. It just struck me as very odd that there were an HTML file in there at all. -- +------//-------------------+ / http://www.bali.ac / / http://niclas.hedhman.org / +------//-------------------+ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
