Hi all,

I just merged the rename from RunnableOnService to ValidatesRunner in the
Java codebase (Python was already there)
https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/2157.

I'm sure there will be stragglers throughout our docs, etc, so please do
help me catch them and fix them. And start learning to say
"ValidatesRunner" in conversation :-)

Kenn

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Lukasz Cwik <[email protected]>
wrote:

> The default is a crashing runner which throws an exception if its executed.
> This makes SDK core/examples/... not depend on any implemented runners.
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Robert Bradshaw <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > +1 to ValidatesRunner. I'd be nice if it were (optionally?)
> > parameterized by which feature it validates.
> >
> > @NeedsRunner is odd, as using a runner is the most natural way to
> > write many (most) tests, but an annotation should be used to mark the
> > exception, not the norm. (I'd just assume a runner is available for
> > all tests, e.g. CoreTests depends on DirectRunner depends on Core).
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mark Liu <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > +1 ValidatesRunner
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Kenneth Knowles
> <[email protected]
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Nice. I like ValidatesRunner.
> > >>
> > >> On Nov 10, 2016 03:39, "Amit Sela" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > How about @ValidatesRunner ?
> > >> > Seems to complement @NeedsRunner as well.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 9:47 AM Aljoscha Krettek <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > +1
> > >> > >
> > >> > > What I would really like to see is automatic derivation of the
> > >> capability
> > >> > > matrix from an extended Runner Test Suite. (As outlined in Thomas'
> > >> doc).
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 at 21:42 Kenneth Knowles
> <[email protected]
> > >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Huge +1 to this.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The two categories I care most about are:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 1. Tests that need a runner, but are testing the other "thing
> > under
> > >> > > test";
> > >> > > > today this is NeedsRunner.
> > >> > > > 2. Tests that are intended to test a runner; today this is
> > >> > > > RunnableOnService.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Actually the lines are not necessary clear between them, but I
> > think
> > >> we
> > >> > > can
> > >> > > > make good choices, like we already do.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The idea of two categories with a common superclass actually
> has a
> > >> > > pitfall:
> > >> > > > what if a test is put in the superclass category, when it does
> not
> > >> > have a
> > >> > > > clear meaning? And also, I don't have any good ideas for names.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > So I think just replacing RunnableOnService with RunnerTest to
> > make
> > >> > clear
> > >> > > > that it is there just to test the runner is good. We might also
> > want
> > >> > > > RunnerIntegrationTest extends NeedsRunner to use in the IO
> > modules.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > See also Thomas's doc on capability matrix testing* which is
> > aimed at
> > >> > > case
> > >> > > > 2. Those tests should all have a category from the doc, or a new
> > one
> > >> > > added.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > *
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fICxq32t9yWn9qXhmT07xpclHeHX2
> > >> > VlUyVtpi2WzzGM/edit
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Kenn
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> > >> [email protected]
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > Hi Mark,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Generally speaking, I agree.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > As RunnableOnService extends NeedsRunner, @TestsWithRunner or
> > >> > > > @RunOnRunner
> > >> > > > > sound clearer.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Regards
> > >> > > > > JB
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On 11/09/2016 09:00 PM, Mark Liu wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >> Hi all,
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> I'm working on building RunnableOnService in Python SDK.
> After
> > >> > having
> > >> > > > >> discussions with folks, "RunnableOnService" looks like not a
> > very
> > >> > > > >> intuitive
> > >> > > > >> name for those unit tests that require runners and build
> > >> lightweight
> > >> > > > >> pipelines to test specific components. Especially, they don't
> > have
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > run
> > >> > > > >> on a service.
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> So I want to raise this idea to the community and see if
> anyone
> > >> have
> > >> > > > >> similar thoughts. Maybe we can come up with a name this is
> > tight
> > >> to
> > >> > > > >> runner.
> > >> > > > >> Currently, I have two names in my head:
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> - TestsWithRunners
> > >> > > > >> - RunnerExecutable
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> Any thoughts?
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> Thanks,
> > >> > > > >> Mark
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > > --
> > >> > > > > Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> > >> > > > > [email protected]
> > >> > > > > http://blog.nanthrax.net
> > >> > > > > Talend - http://www.talend.com
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
>

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