+1 to reducing the amount of boilerplate for dealing with side inputs.

I prefer the "NewDoFn" style of side inputs for consistency. The
primary drawback seems to be lambda's incompatibility with
annotations. This is solved in Python by letting all the first
annotated argument of the process method be the main input, and
subsequent ones be the side input. For example

main_pcoll | beam.Map(
    lambda main_input_elem, side_input_value: main_input_elem +
side_input_value,
    side_input_pvalue)

For multiple side inputs they are mapped positionally (though Python
has the advantage that arguments can be passed by keyword as well to
enhance readability when there are many of them, and we allow that for
side inputs). Note that side_input_pvalue is not referenced anywhere
else, so we don't even have to store it and pass it around (one
typically writes pvalue.AsList(some_pcoll) inline here). When the
concrete PCollectionView is used to access the value this means that
it must be passed separately to both the ParDo and the callback
(unless we can infer it, which I don't think we can do in all (many?)
cases).

There's no reason we couldn't do this, or something very similar, in
Java as well.

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Reuven Lax <re...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Eugene Kirpichov <
> kirpic...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I agree with these concerns to an extent, however I think the advantage of
>> transparently letting any user code access side inputs, especially
>> including lambdas, is so great that we should find a way to address these
>> concerns within the constraints of the pattern I'm proposing. See more
>> below.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 9:29 AM Ben Chambers <bchamb...@google.com.invalid
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > One possible issue with this is that updating a thread local is likely to
>> > be much more expensive than passing an additional argument.
>>
>> This is an implementation detail that can be fixed - Luke made a suggestion
>> on the PR to set up the side input context once per bundle rather than once
>> per element.
>>
>
> However remember that bundles might be small. Dataflow streaming runner
> creates small bundles by design. The Flink runner creates single-element
> bundles.
>
>
>>
>>
>> > Also, not all
>> > code called from within the DoFn will necessarily be in the same thread
>> > (eg., sometimes we create a pool of threads for doing work).
>>
>> I think we already require that c.output() can not be done from multiple
>> threads; and I don't think we document c.sideInput() to be thread-safe - it
>> may be reasonable to declare that it isn't and has to be accessed from the
>> same thread as the ProcessElement call. If we want to relax this, then
>> there might be ways to deal with that too, e.g. provide utilities for the
>> user to capture the "user code context" and restoring it inside a thread.
>> This would likely be valuable for other purposes, such as making those
>> extra threads visible to our profiling utilities.
>>
>
> This seems fair, but we should be be very careful about our documentation.
> And +1 to adding utilities to make multi-threaded work easier to manage.
>
>>
>>
>> > It may be
>> > *more* confusing for this to sometimes work magically and sometimes fail
>> > horribly. Also, requiring the PCollectionView to be passed to user code
>> > that accesses it is nice because it makes *very clear* that the side
>> input
>> > needs to be provided from the DoFn to that particular utility. If it is
>> > accessed via "spooky action at a distance" we lose that piece of "free"
>> > documentation, which may lead to extensive misuse of these utility
>> methods.
>> >
>> I'd like to understand this concern better - from this description it's not
>> clear to me. The pattern I'm proposing is that, when you're authoring a
>> PTransform that is configured by any user callbacks, then:
>> - you should provide a builder method .withSideInputs(...)
>> - you should propagate those side inputs to all your internal DoFn's that
>> invoke the user code
>> - in return the user callbacks will be allowed to access those particular
>> side inputs
>> This seems like a simple enough model to me to understand, both from a
>> user's perspective and from a transform author's perspective. Steps 1 and 2
>> may eventually be automated by annotation analysis or other means (e.g. SDK
>> giving a way to provide given side inputs automatically to everything
>> inside a composite transform rather than to individual DoFn's).
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 11:10 AM Eugene Kirpichov
>> > <kirpic...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:55 AM Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com.invalid
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:15 AM, Eugene Kirpichov <
>> > > > kirpic...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The differences are:
>> > > > > - The proposal in the doc allows wiring different side inputs to
>> the
>> > > same
>> > > > > Supplier, but I'm not convinced that this is important - you can
>> just
>> > > as
>> > > > > easily call the constructor of your DoFn passing different
>> > > > > PCollectionView's for it to capture.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I disagree with this bit about it being "just as easy". Passing the
>> > > needed
>> > > > PCollectionViews to your constructor (or even having a constructor)
>> is
>> > a
>> > > > pain. Every time I have to do it, it adds a ton of boilerplate that
>> > feels
>> > > > like pure noise. To make a DoFn reusable it must be made into a named
>> > > class
>> > > > with a constructor, versus inlined with no constructor.
>> > >
>> > > Hm, why? You can have the DoFn be an anonymous class capturing the
>> > > PCollectionView into a @SideInput field as a closure.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > A generous analogy
>> > > > is is that it is "just" manual closure conversion/currying, changing
>> > > > f(side, main) to f(side)(main). But in practice in Beam the second
>> one
>> > > has
>> > > > much more boilerplate.
>> > > >
>> > > > Also, Beam is worse. We present the user with higher-order functions,
>> > > which
>> > > > is where the actual annoyance comes in. When you want to pardo(f) you
>> > > have
>> > > > to write pardo(f(side))(side, main). Your proposal is to support
>> > > > pardo(f(side))(main) and mine is to support pardo(f)(side, main). I
>> > still
>> > > > propose that we support both (as they get implemented). If you buy in
>> > to
>> > > my
>> > > > analogy, then there's decades of precedent and the burden of proof
>> > falls
>> > > > heavily on whoever doesn't want to support both.
>> > > >
>> > > I see your point. I think the proposal is compatible with what you're
>> > > suggesting too - in DoFn we could have @SideInput *parameters* of type
>> > > PCollectionView, with the same semantics as a field.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > - My proposal allows getting rid of .withSideInputs() entirely,
>> because
>> > > the
>> > > > > DoFn captures the PCollectionView so you don't need to specify it
>> > > > > explicitly for wiring.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I've decided to change to full +1 (whatever that means compared to
>> 0.75
>> > > :-)
>> > > > to adding support for @SideInput fields, because the benefits
>> outweigh
>> > > this
>> > > > failure mode:
>> > > >
>> > > > new DoFn {
>> > > >   // forgot the annotation
>> > > >   private final PCollectionView whatever;
>> > > >
>> > > >   @ProcessElement public void process(...) {
>> > > >     whatever.get(); // crash during execution
>> > > >   }
>> > > > }
>> > > >
>> > > > But ideas to mitigate that would be cool.
>> > >
>> > > Hm, can't think of anything less hacky than "prohibit having fields of
>> > type
>> > > PCollectionView that are not public, final, and annotated with
>> > @SideInput"
>> > > - not sure we'd want to go down this road. I suppose a good error
>> message
>> > > in .get() would be sufficient, saying "Did you forget to specify a
>> > > requirement for this side input via .withSideInputs() or by annotating
>> > the
>> > > field as @SideInput" or something like that.
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Kenn
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:03 AM Lukasz Cwik
>> <lc...@google.com.invalid
>> > >
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > My concern with the proposal is not the specifics of how it will
>> > work
>> > > > and
>> > > > > > more about it being yet another way on how our API is to be used
>> > even
>> > > > > > though we have a proposal [1] of an API style we were working
>> > towards
>> > > > in
>> > > > > > Java and Python. I would rather re-open that discussion now about
>> > > what
>> > > > we
>> > > > > > want that API to look like for our major features and work
>> towards
>> > > > > > consistency (or not if there is a strong argument as to why some
>> > > > feature
>> > > > > > should have a different style).
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 1: https://s.apache.org/a-new-dofn
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:22 AM, Kenneth Knowles
>> > > > <k...@google.com.invalid
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > +0.75 because I'd like to bring up invalid pipelines.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I had proposed side inputs as parameters to DoFn in
>> > > > > > > https://s.apache.org/a-new-dofn (specifically at [1]) so the
>> > only
>> > > > > place
>> > > > > > > they are specified is in the graph construction, making the
>> DoFn
>> > > more
>> > > > > > > reusable and errors impossible. I've actually been noodling my
>> > way
>> > > > > > towards
>> > > > > > > this in a branch :-)
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Eugene's proposal is a sort of converse, where the side inputs
>> > are
>> > > > > values
>> > > > > > > captured in the closure and not parameters, yet the only place
>> > they
>> > > > are
>> > > > > > > specified is in the DoFn.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I see no conflict between these two. It is very natural to have
>> > > both
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > capability to accept parameters and the ability to capture
>> > > variables
>> > > > in
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > closure. Supporting both is totally standard in up-to-date
>> > > > programming
>> > > > > > > languages.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Today we have the worse of both worlds: PCollectionView behaves
>> > as
>> > > > > > > something captured in the closure/constructor, but must still
>> be
>> > > > > > explicitly
>> > > > > > > wired up.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > But if I use PCollectionView.get() and have not wired it up in
>> > any
>> > > > way,
>> > > > > > > what happens? Just like today, you can try to .sideInput(...) a
>> > > thing
>> > > > > > that
>> > > > > > > is not available. With side inputs as parameters, this is not
>> > > > possible.
>> > > > > > If
>> > > > > > > you want to treat them as captured in a closure, while avoiding
>> > > > errors,
>> > > > > > it
>> > > > > > > seems like you might need to do some low-level magic, like the
>> > > > > > > serialization-based detection that Luke has suggested before
>> > (there
>> > > > are
>> > > > > > > known downsides that we haven't explored, like overcapture).
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Kenn
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > [1]
>> > > > > > >
>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ClmQ6LqdnfseRzeSw3SL68DAO1f8j
>> > > > > > > sWBL2FfzWErlbw/edit#heading=h.1budnm7l01ko
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 11:24 PM, Eugene Kirpichov <
>> > > > > > > kirpic...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Hm, I guess you're right - for outputs it could be indeed
>> quite
>> > > > > > valuable
>> > > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > output to them without plumbing (e.g. outputting errors).
>> Could
>> > > be
>> > > > > done
>> > > > > > > > perhaps via TupleTag.output()? (assuming the same TupleTag
>> can
>> > > not
>> > > > be
>> > > > > > > > reused to tag multiple PCollection's)
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > For now I sent a PR for side input support
>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/3814 .
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 9:52 PM Lukasz Cwik
>> > > > <lc...@google.com.invalid
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > I disagree, state may not care where it is used as well
>> > since a
>> > > > > > person
>> > > > > > > > may
>> > > > > > > > > call a function which needs to store/retrieve state and
>> > instead
>> > > > of
>> > > > > > > having
>> > > > > > > > > the DoFn declare the StateSpec and then pass in the state
>> > > > > > > implementation
>> > > > > > > > > down into the function everywhere. Similarly for outputs,
>> the
>> > > > > > internal
>> > > > > > > > > functions could take the TupleTag and request an output
>> > manager
>> > > > or
>> > > > > > take
>> > > > > > > > an
>> > > > > > > > > "output" reference which give functions the ability to
>> > produce
>> > > > > output
>> > > > > > > > > directly without needing to pass everything that is needed
>> to
>> > > be
>> > > > > > output
>> > > > > > > > > back to the caller.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 9:23 PM, Eugene Kirpichov <
>> > > > > > > > > kirpic...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Hm, I think of these things (state, side outputs etc.),
>> > only
>> > > > side
>> > > > > > > > inputs
>> > > > > > > > > > make sense to access in arbitrary user callbacks without
>> > > > explicit
>> > > > > > > > > knowledge
>> > > > > > > > > > of the surrounding transform - so only side inputs can be
>> > > > > implicit
>> > > > > > > like
>> > > > > > > > > > this.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Ultimately we'll probably end up removing ProcessContext,
>> > and
>> > > > > > keeping
>> > > > > > > > > only
>> > > > > > > > > > annotations (on fields / methods / parameters). In that
>> > > world,
>> > > > a
>> > > > > > > field
>> > > > > > > > > > annotation could be used (like per my previous email) to
>> > > > > statically
>> > > > > > > > > specify
>> > > > > > > > > > which side inputs will be needed - while the value could
>> > > still
>> > > > be
>> > > > > > > > > accessed
>> > > > > > > > > > via .get(), just like state cells are accessed via
>> .read()
>> > > and
>> > > > > > > > .write():
>> > > > > > > > > > i.e., #get() is not a new method of access.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Overall, it seems like I should proceed with the idea. I
>> > > filed
>> > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-2844.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 9:08 PM Lukasz Cwik
>> > > > > > <lc...@google.com.invalid
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > For API consistency reasons, it would be good if we did
>> > > this
>> > > > > > > > > holistically
>> > > > > > > > > > > and expanded this approach to state, side outputs, ...
>> so
>> > > > that
>> > > > > a
>> > > > > > > > person
>> > > > > > > > > > can
>> > > > > > > > > > > always call Something.get() to return something that
>> they
>> > > can
>> > > > > > > access
>> > > > > > > > > > > implementation wise. It will be confusing for our users
>> > to
>> > > > have
>> > > > > > > many
>> > > > > > > > > > > variations in our style of how all these concepts are
>> > used
>> > > > > > > > > > (ProcessContext
>> > > > > > > > > > > / Annotations / #get())
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Eugene Kirpichov <
>> > > > > > > > > > > kirpic...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Also, I think my approach is compatible with
>> > annotations
>> > > > and
>> > > > > > > future
>> > > > > > > > > > > removal
>> > > > > > > > > > > > of .withSideInputs if we annotate a field:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > final PCollectionView<Foo> foo = ...;
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > class MyDoFn {
>> > > > > > > > > > > >   @SideInput
>> > > > > > > > > > > >   PCollectionView<Foo> foo = foo;
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >   ...foo.get()...
>> > > > > > > > > > > > }
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > We can extract the accessed views from the DoFn
>> > instance
>> > > > > using
>> > > > > > > > > > > reflection.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Still not compatible with lambdas, but compatible
>> > > > > automatically
>> > > > > > > > with
>> > > > > > > > > > all
>> > > > > > > > > > > > anonymous classes.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017, 8:02 AM Eugene Kirpichov <
>> > > > > > > > kirpic...@google.com>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Luke,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > I know this (annotations) is the pattern we were
>> > > > > considering
>> > > > > > > for
>> > > > > > > > > side
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > inputs, but I no longer think it is the best way to
>> > > > access
>> > > > > > > them.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Annotations help getting rid of the
>> .withSideInputs()
>> > > > call,
>> > > > > > but
>> > > > > > > > > this
>> > > > > > > > > > is
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > where their advantage ends.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > The advantages of the proposed approach are that it
>> > > > > > > automatically
>> > > > > > > > > > works
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > with all existing callback or lambda code. No need
>> to
>> > > > > further
>> > > > > > > > > develop
>> > > > > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > reflection machinery to support side input
>> > annotations
>> > > -
>> > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > > especially
>> > > > > > > > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > support arbitrary user interfaces, no need to
>> change
>> > > > > existing
>> > > > > > > > > > > transforms,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > no need for transform authors to even know that the
>> > > > > machinery
>> > > > > > > > > exists
>> > > > > > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > make side inputs usable in their transforms (and no
>> > > need
>> > > > > for
>> > > > > > > > > authors
>> > > > > > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > think about whether or not they should support side
>> > > > > inputs).
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreover, like Reuven says, annotations don't work
>> > with
>> > > > > > lambdas
>> > > > > > > > at
>> > > > > > > > > > all:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > creating a lambda with a flexible set of annotation
>> > > > > arguments
>> > > > > > > > > appears
>> > > > > > > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > > > > > > be
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > currently impossible, and even capturing the
>> > > annotations
>> > > > on
>> > > > > > > > > arguments
>> > > > > > > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > > > > > > a
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > lambda is I believe also impossible because the
>> Java
>> > > > > compiler
>> > > > > > > > drops
>> > > > > > > > > > > them
>> > > > > > > > > > > > in
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > the generated class or method handle.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 6:57 AM Lukasz Cwik
>> > > > > > > > > <lc...@google.com.invalid
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> I believe we should follow the pattern that state
>> > uses
>> > > > and
>> > > > > > > add a
>> > > > > > > > > > type
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> annotation to link the side input definition to
>> its
>> > > > usage
>> > > > > > > > > directly.
>> > > > > > > > > > > This
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> would allow us to know that the side input was
>> > > > definitely
>> > > > > > > being
>> > > > > > > > > > > accessed
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> and perform validation during graph construction
>> for
>> > > any
>> > > > > > used
>> > > > > > > > but
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> unspecified side inputs.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Code snippet:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> final PCollectionView<String> foo =
>> > > > > > pipeline.apply("fooName",
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Create.of("foo")).apply(View.<
>> String>asSingleton());
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> PCollection<String> output = pipeline
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>     .apply(Create.of(1, 2, 3))
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>     .apply(MapElements.via(
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>         new SimpleFunction<Integer, String>() {
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>           @Override
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>           public String apply(Integer input,
>> > > > > > > > @SideInput("fooName")
>> > > > > > > > > > > > String
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> fooValue) {
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>             return fooValue + " " + input;
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>           }
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>         }).withSideInputs(foo));*
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Eugene Kirpichov <
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> kirpic...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Sure, here's how a modified (passing)
>> MapElements
>> > > unit
>> > > > > > test
>> > > > > > > > > looks
>> > > > > > > > > > > > like,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > with usage of side inputs:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >   @Test
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >   @Category(NeedsRunner.class)
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >   public void testMapBasicWithSideInput() throws
>> > > > > > Exception {
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >    * final PCollectionView<String> foo =*
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > *        pipeline.apply("foo",
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
>> > > Create.of("foo")).apply(View.<String>asSingleton());*
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >     PCollection<String> output = pipeline
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >         .apply(Create.of(1, 2, 3))
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >         .apply(MapElements.via(
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >             new SimpleFunction<Integer,
>> String>()
>> > {
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >               @Override
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >               public String apply(Integer
>> input) {
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >                 return* foo.get() *+ " " +
>> input;
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >               }
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >             })
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >         *.withSideInputs(foo));*
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >     PAssert.that(output).
>> containsInAnyOrder("foo
>> > 1",
>> > > > > "foo
>> > > > > > > 2",
>> > > > > > > > > > "foo
>> > > > > > > > > > > > 3");
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >     pipeline.run();
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >   }
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 6:12 PM Reuven Lax
>> > > > > > > > > > <re...@google.com.invalid
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Can you provide a code snippet showing how
>> this
>> > > > would
>> > > > > > > look?
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Eugene
>> > Kirpichov <
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > kirpic...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > TL;DR Introduce method
>> PCollectionView.get(),
>> > > > > > > implemented
>> > > > > > > > > as:
>> > > > > > > > > > > get
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > thread-local ProcessContext and do
>> > > > > c.sideInput(this).
>> > > > > > > As a
>> > > > > > > > > > > result,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> any
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > user
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > lambdas such as MapElements can use side
>> > inputs.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Quite a few transforms have user-code
>> > callbacks
>> > > or
>> > > > > > > > lambdas:
>> > > > > > > > > > > ParDo
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > (DoFn),
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Map/FlatMapElements, the DynamicDestinations
>> > > > classes
>> > > > > > in
>> > > > > > > > > > various
>> > > > > > > > > > > > IOs,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > combine fns, the PollFn callback in Watch,
>> > etc.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Of these, only DoFn and CombineFn have
>> > built-in
>> > > > > > support
>> > > > > > > > for
>> > > > > > > > > > side
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > inputs;
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > for DynamicDestinations it is plumbed
>> > > explicitly;
>> > > > > > others
>> > > > > > > > > don't
>> > > > > > > > > > > > have
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > access
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > (e.g. you can't access side inputs from
>> > > > > > > > Map/FlatMapElements
>> > > > > > > > > > > > because
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > they
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > don't have a ProcessContext or any context
>> for
>> > > > that
>> > > > > > > > matter).
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > I think it's important to solve this,
>> > especially
>> > > > as
>> > > > > > > Java 8
>> > > > > > > > > > > becomes
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > people's
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > default choice: users will want to use side
>> > > inputs
>> > > > > in
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > Map/FlatMapElements.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > It also appears to be quite easy to
>> implement:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Runner part:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > - introduce a SideInputAccessor interface
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > - make .get() on a PCollectionView get it
>> > from a
>> > > > > > > > > thread-local
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > SideInputAccessor
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > - make runners set the thread-local
>> > > > > SideInputAccessor
>> > > > > > > any
>> > > > > > > > > time
>> > > > > > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > runner
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > is evaluating something in a context where
>> > side
>> > > > > inputs
>> > > > > > > are
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> available,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > e.g.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > a ProcessElement method, or applying a
>> > > CombineFn -
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > > set
>> > > > > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > > > > > such
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > places
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > will be quite small. I believe only runners
>> > (but
>> > > > not
>> > > > > > > > > > transforms)
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> will
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > ever
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > need to set this thread-local
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Transform part:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > - Transforms that take user-code lambdas and
>> > > want
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > let
>> > > > > > > > > them
>> > > > > > > > > > > > access
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > side
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > inputs still will need to be configurable
>> > with a
>> > > > > > method
>> > > > > > > > like
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > .withSideInputs(view1, view2...) and will
>> need
>> > > to
>> > > > > > plumb
>> > > > > > > > > those
>> > > > > > > > > > > down
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> to
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > primitive DoFn's or CombineFn's -
>> information
>> > on
>> > > > > > *which*
>> > > > > > > > > side
>> > > > > > > > > > > > inputs
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > will
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > be accessed, of course, still needs to be in
>> > the
>> > > > > > graph.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > I quickly prototyped this in direct runner
>> and
>> > > > > > > > MapElements,
>> > > > > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > > > it
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > worked
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > with no issues - I'm wondering if there's
>> > > > something
>> > > > > > > subtle
>> > > > > > > > > > that
>> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > missing, or is it actually a good idea?
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >
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