Let's assume that when I say (a) the author has arranged commits to be
meaningful. That's what I meant to say in each of my descriptions of the
option. If they are noise, it doesn't apply.

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 8:04 PM, James <xumingmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Kenn for bring up this expanded discussion, my vote is:
>
> (a) -1 this preserves noise log like 'fix review comments'
> (b) +0 this keeps the commit log clean, but without a rebase
> (c) -1 similar to option a), it preserves noise log like 'fix review
> comments'
>
> My ideal option is the current manual merge process: `rebase + squash`,
> maybe we should consider introducing mergebot?
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 4:01 AM Raghu Angadi <rang...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> (a) -0 due to extra noise in the commit log
>>>
>>
>>
>>> (b) -1 (as standard/default) this should be done by contributor as there
>>> may be few situation where individual commits should be preserved
>>>
>>
>> It is better to preserve the commit history of the PR at least in the
>> committer branch (and PR).
>> In addition having to force push squashed commit to remote git branch
>> each time is quite painful. If we squash at all, final merge into master
>> seems like the best place.
>>
>>
>>> (c) +1 the rebase will also record the committer (which would be merge
>>> commit author otherwise)
>>>
>>> In general the process should result in "merged" status for a merged PR
>>> as opposed to "closed" as seen often currently.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Raghu Angadi <rang...@google.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> -1 for (a): no need to see all the private branch commits from
>>>>> contributor. It often makes me more conscious of local commits.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I want to note that on my PRs these are not private commits. Each one
>>>> is a meaningful isolated change that can be rolled back and is useful to
>>>> keep separate when looking at `git blame` or the history of a file. I would
>>>> encourage every contributor to also do this. A PR is the unit of code
>>>> review, but the unit of meaningful change to a repository is often much
>>>> smaller.
>>>>
>>>> Kenn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> +1 for (b): with committer replacing the squashed commit messages with
>>>>> '[BEAM-jira or PRID]: Brief cut-n-paste (or longer if it contributor
>>>>> provided one)'.
>>>>> -1 for (c): This is quite painful for contributors to work with if
>>>>> there has been merge conflict with master. Especially for larger PRs with
>>>>> multiple updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible for mergebot to auto squash any fixup! and perform the
>>>>>> merge commit as described in (a), if so then I would vote for mergebot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Without mergebot, I vote:
>>>>>> (a) 0 I like squashing fixup!
>>>>>> (b) -1
>>>>>> (c) +1 Most of our PRs are for focused singular changes which is why
>>>>>> I would rather squash everything over not squashing anything
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Ben Chambers <bchamb...@google.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One risk to "squash and merge" is that it may lead to commits that
>>>>>>>> don't have clean descriptions -- for instance, commits like "Fixing 
>>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>>> comments" will show up. If we use (a) these would also show up as 
>>>>>>>> separate
>>>>>>>> commits. It seems like there are two cases of multiple commits in a PR:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Multiple commits in a PR that have semantic meaning (eg., a PR
>>>>>>>> performed N steps, split across N commits). In this case, keeping the
>>>>>>>> descriptions and performing either a merge (if the commits are 
>>>>>>>> separately
>>>>>>>> valid) or squash (if we want the commits to become a single commit in
>>>>>>>> master) probably makes sense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keep 'em
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. Multiple commits in a PR that just reflect the review history.
>>>>>>>> In this case, we should probably ask the PR author to explicitly rebase
>>>>>>>> their PR to have semantically meaningful commits prior to merging. 
>>>>>>>> (Eg., do
>>>>>>>> a rebase -i).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ask the author to squash 'em.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:46 AM Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> James brought up a great question in Slack, which was how should
>>>>>>>>> we use the merge button, illustrated [1]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I want to broaden the discussion to talk about all the new
>>>>>>>>> capabilities:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Whether & how to use the "reviewer" field
>>>>>>>>> 2. Whether & how to use the "assignee" field
>>>>>>>>> 3. Whether & how to use the merge button
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My preferences are:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Use the reviewer field instead of "R:" comments.
>>>>>>>>> 2. Use the assignee field to keep track of who the review is
>>>>>>>>> blocked on (either the reviewer for more comments or the author for 
>>>>>>>>> fixes)
>>>>>>>>> 3. Use merge commits, but editing the commit subject line
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To expand on part 3, GitHub's merge button has three options [1].
>>>>>>>>> They are not described accurately in the UI, as they all say "merge" 
>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>> only one of them performs a merge. They do the following:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (a) Merge the branch with a merge commit
>>>>>>>>> (b) Squash all the commits, rebase and push
>>>>>>>>> (c) Rebase and push without squash
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unlike our current guide, all of these result in a "merged" status
>>>>>>>>> for the PR, so we can correctly distinguish those PRs that were 
>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>> merged.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My votes on these options are:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (a) +1 this preserves the most information
>>>>>>>>> (b) -1 this erases the most information
>>>>>>>>> (c) -0 this is just sort of a middle ground; it breaks commit
>>>>>>>>> hashes, does not have a clear merge commit, but preserves other info
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1] https://apachebeam.slack.com/messages/C1AAFJYMP/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

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