A month is OK for me: I prefer that than longer (as it was before).

The most important is a regular pace: we should avoid a 2.4.0 now and a 2.5.0
four months later. So, it means that 2.5.0 should happen roughly end of April.

I will send a clear statement (as I already did weeks ago) around releases pace
and schedule.

I'm volunteer to drive the releases.

Regards
JB

On 02/28/2018 06:43 AM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
> To be semver, 2.3.1 should be rollback safe with 2.3.0. Normally that is
> accomplished by cutting 2.3.1 release branch from 2.3.0 release branch and 
> then
> have fixes cherrypicked.
> 
> I think 6 weeks between minor version releases is not too fast. I think a 
> month
> is a good target.
> 
> We tend to have high latency between cut and release, so we should plan on 
> that.
> 
> Kenn
> 
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:16 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net
> <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>> wrote:
> 
>     That's the point of my e-mail indeed. I think it would make more sense for
>     users.
> 
>     Regards
>     JB
> 
>     On 02/28/2018 06:04 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>     > Thinking out loud: why not trying a 2.3.1 with small fixes only and the 
> 2.4
>     > after 6 weeks starting from the 2.3.0 real release date.
>     >
>     > Le 28 févr. 2018 04:24, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <j...@nanthrax.net 
> <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>
>     > <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>>> a écrit :
>     >
>     >     OK, maybe I wasn't clear: for me the cycle is ~ 6 weeks once a 
> release is out,
>     >     not when it started.
>     >
>     >     I don't remember about monthly release (it's too fast IMHO).
>     >
>     >     Anyway, let me find the thread dealing with release pace and 
> propose a clear
>     >     statement. It's important for our users.
>     >
>     >     Regards
>     >     JB
>     >
>     >     On 02/28/2018 04:17 AM, Reuven Lax wrote:
>     >     > It's been six weeks since you proposed beam 2.3.0. so assuming 
> the same time
>     >     > scale for this release, that's 1.5 months between releases. 
> Slightly
>     >     faster than
>     >     > 2 months, but not by much.
>     >     >
>     >     > I do seem to remember that the original goal for beam was monthly 
> releases
>     >     though.
>     >     >
>     >     > Reuven
>     >     >
>     >     > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018, 9:12 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> <j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>
>     >     <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>>
>     >     > <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>
>     <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>>>> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     Hi Reuven,
>     >     >
>     >     >     In a previous thread (about Beam project execution), I 
> proposed a
>     >     release every
>     >     >     two months (as a best effort), I will find the e-mail.
>     >     >
>     >     >     Beam 2.3.0 has been released "officially" on February 16th, 
> so two
>     >     week ago
>     >     >     roughly. I would have expected 2.4.0 not before end of March.
>     >     >
>     >     >     If we have issue we want to fix fast, then 2.3.1 is good. If 
> it's a
>     >     new release
>     >     >     in the pace, it's pretty fast and might "confuse" our users.
>     >     >
>     >     >     That's why I'm curious ;)
>     >     >
>     >     >     Regards
>     >     >     JB
>     >     >
>     >     >     On 02/28/2018 03:50 AM, Reuven Lax wrote:
>     >     >     > Wasn't the original statement monthly releases? We've never
>     >     realistically
>     >     >     > managed that, but Robert's proposed cut will be on a 6-week 
> pace.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018, 8:48 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>     <j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>
>     >     <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>>
>     >     >     <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>
>     <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>>>
>     >     >     > <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>
>     <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>>
>     >     <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>
>     <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>>>>> wrote:
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     Hi Robert,
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     I'm just curious: it's pretty fast compared to the
>     original plan
>     >     of a
>     >     >     release
>     >     >     >     every two months. What's the reason to cut 2.4.0 now
>     instead of
>     >     end of
>     >     >     March ?
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     I will do the Jira triage and update today.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     Regards
>     >     >     >     JB
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     On 02/27/2018 09:21 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
>     >     >     >     > I'm planning on cutting the 2.4.0 release branch soon
>     >     (tomorrow?). I
>     >     >     see 13
>     >     >     >     > open issues on JIRA [1], none of which are labeled as
>     >     blockers. If there
>     >     >     >     > are any that cannot be bumped to the next release, let
>     me know
>     >     soon.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > - Robert
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > [1]
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >   
>     >     >   
>     >   
>        
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-3749?jql=project%20%3D%20BEAM%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened)%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.4.0
>     
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-3749?jql=project%20%3D%20BEAM%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened)%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.4.0>
>     >   
>      
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-3749?jql=project%20%3D%20BEAM%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened)%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.4.0
>     
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-3749?jql=project%20%3D%20BEAM%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22%2C%20Reopened)%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%202.4.0>>
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     --
>     >     >     >     Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>     >     >     >     jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>
>     <mailto:jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>>
>     >     <mailto:jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>
>     <mailto:jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>>>
>     >     >     <mailto:jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>
>     <mailto:jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>>
>     >     <mailto:jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>
>     <mailto:jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>>>>
>     >     >     >     http://blog.nanthrax.net
>     >     >     >     Talend - http://www.talend.com
>     >     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >     --
>     >     >     Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>     >     >     jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>
>     <mailto:jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>>
>     >     <mailto:jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>
>     <mailto:jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>>>
>     >     >     http://blog.nanthrax.net
>     >     >     Talend - http://www.talend.com
>     >     >
>     >
>     >     --
>     >     Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>     >     jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>
>     <mailto:jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>>
>     >     http://blog.nanthrax.net
>     >     Talend - http://www.talend.com
>     >
> 
>     --
>     Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>     jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>
>     http://blog.nanthrax.net
>     Talend - http://www.talend.com
> 
> 

-- 
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jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
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