Ben,

Looks like we hit the send button at the same time. Is the plan the to
derive the Flink implementation of the various execution services from
those under org.apache.beam.runners.fnexecution ?

Thanks

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:02 AM, Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org> wrote:

> What's the plan for the endpoints that the Flink operator needs to provide
> (control/data plane, state, logging)? Is the intention to provide base
> implementations that can be shared across runners and then implement the
> Flink specific parts on top of it? Has work started on those?
>
> If there are subtasks ready to be taken up I would be interested.
>
> Thanks,
> Thomas
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Ben Sidhom <sid...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, Axel has started work on such a shim.
>>
>> Our plan in the short term is to keep the old FlinkRunner around and to
>> call into it to process jobs from the job service itself. That way we can
>> keep the non-portable runner fully-functional while working on portability.
>> Eventually, I think it makes sense for this to go away, but we haven't
>> given much thought to that. The translator layer will likely stay the same,
>> and the FlinkRunner bits are a relatively simple wrapper around
>> translation, so it should be simple enough to factor this out.
>>
>> Much of the service code from the Universal Local Runner (ULR) should be
>> composed and reused with other runner implementations. Thomas and Axel have
>> more context around that.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 8:47 AM Aljoscha Krettek <aljos...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Has anyone started on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-2588
>>>  (FlinkRunner shim for serving Job API). If not I would start on that.
>>>
>>> My plan is to implement a FlinkJobService that implements 
>>> JobServiceImplBase,
>>> similar to ReferenceRunnerJobService. This would have a lot of the
>>> functionality that FlinkRunner currently has. As a next step, I would add a
>>> JobServiceRunner that can submit Pipelines to a JobService.
>>>
>>> For testing, I would probably add functionality that allows spinning up
>>> a JobService in-process with the JobServiceRunner. I can imagine for
>>> testing we could even eventually use something like:
>>> "--runner=JobServiceRunner", "--streaming=true",
>>> "--jobService=FlinkRunnerJobService".
>>>
>>> Once all of this is done, we only need the python component that talks
>>> to the JobService to submit a pipeline.
>>>
>>> What do you think about the plan?
>>>
>>> Btw, I feel that the thing currently called Runner, i.e. FlinkRunner
>>> will go way in the long run and we will have FlinkJobService,
>>> SparkJobService and whatnot, what do you think?
>>>
>>> Aljoscha
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9. Feb 2018, at 01:31, Ben Sidhom <sid...@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> We're working on getting the portability framework plumbed through the
>>> Flink runner. The first iteration will likely only support batch and will
>>> be limited in its deployment flexibility, but hopefully it shouldn't be too
>>> painful to expand this.
>>>
>>> We have the start of a tracking doc here: https://s.apache.org/por
>>> table-beam-on-flink.
>>>
>>> We've documented the general deployment strategy here:
>>> https://s.apache.org/portable-flink-runner-overview.
>>>
>>> Feel free to provide comments on the docs or jump in on any of the
>>> referenced bugs.
>>>
>>> --
>>> -Ben
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> -Ben
>>
>
>

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