Hi Luke,

you are right, from a Apache perspective, the only required artifacts is the
source tarball on dist (that should be buildable).

There is no requirement for the ones on Maven, it's more for convenience for our
users.

Regards
JB

On 04/09/2018 09:56 PM, Lukasz Cwik wrote:
> Romain, I was under the impression that the source tar ball that is uploaded 
> to
> www.apache.org/dist/ <http://www.apache.org/dist/> is required to be buildable
> and is a separate deliverable from the artifacts (jars
> (source/test/javadoc/...)/poms) uploaded to
> https://repository.apache.org/service/local/staging/deploy/maven2.
> 
> The source tar ball uploaded to www.apache.org/dist/
> <http://www.apache.org/dist/> will contain the gradle build files allowing one
> to reproduce the artifacts (jars (source/test/javadoc)/poms).
> 
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 3:44 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com
> <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     Le 9 avr. 2018 16:06, "Lukasz Cwik" <lc...@google.com
>     <mailto:lc...@google.com>> a écrit :
> 
> 
> 
>         On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 10:02 AM Romain Manni-Bucau
>         <rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>             I got the same with that PR applied and the previous command. Is 
> using
>             your fork needed? 
> 
>         No, you can also use https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5048
>          
> 
>             Is there any PR to import it?
> 
>         Yes, https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5048
> 
> 
> 
>     Ok so it doesnt work and generates a pom without parent nor dependencies
>     which is a bare minimum but not enough since exploding the sources jar and
>     running the pom should build a valid jar.
> 
> 
>             In any case master is not ready to be released with that yet - to 
> come
>             back to the actual topic. 
> 
> 
>             Romain Manni-Bucau
>             @rmannibucau |  Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
> 
> 
>             2018-04-09 15:56 GMT+02:00 Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com
>             <mailto:lc...@google.com>>:
>             > Romain,
>             > The gradle based release process has an open PR in
>             > https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5048 to merge to master.
>             > I thought you were running the commands from
>             > https://github.com/lukecwik/incubator-beam/tree/gradle
>             >
>             > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 9:13 AM Romain Manni-Bucau
>             <rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>>
>             > wrote:
>             >>
>             >> @Lukasz: same with gradlew and release option, pom is empty (no
>             parent, no
>             >> dependencies, no more description - needed since central poms 
> use
>             that for
>             >> doc purposes).
>             >>
>             >>
>             >> Romain Manni-Bucau
>             >> @rmannibucau |  Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
>             >>
>             >> 2018-04-09 15:00 GMT+02:00 Reuven Lax <re...@google.com
>             <mailto:re...@google.com>>:
>             >>>
>             >>> Is everything needed merged into master?
>             >>>
>             >>> If so, why don't we try doing it with Gradle, but "fail fast"
>             back to
>             >>> Maven if something doesn't work. If something doesn't quite 
> work
>             I don't
>             >>> think we should delay 2.5.0 while we fix it, when we can still
>             do 2.5.0 with
>             >>> Maven.
>             >>>
>             >>> Reuven
>             >>>
>             >>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 12:58 PM Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com
>             <mailto:lc...@google.com>> wrote:
>             >>>>
>             >>>> I would rather have the community try doing the 2.5.0 
> release with
>             >>>> Gradle and to fix the issues while people are currently
>             focusing on the
>             >>>> migration and not 6 weeks from now when the 2.6.0 release
>             starts. We can
>             >>>> always fallback to Maven if the community thinks its not 
> ready.
>             If we go
>             >>>> with using Gradle, we should wait till the docs get updated 
> so
>             people
>             >>>> working on the release know how to do it.
>             >>>>
>             >>>> Romain, use `./gradlew publishToMavenLocal -Prelease` to
>             publish the
>             >>>> release candidate version to Maven local.
>             >>>>
>             >>>>
>             >>>>
>             >>>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:47 AM Romain Manni-Bucau
>             >>>> <rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>             >>>>>
>             >>>>> Surely did something wrong launching: gradle [build]
>             >>>>> publishToMavenLocal
>             >>>>>
>             >>>>>
>             >>>>>
>             >>>>> $ cat
>             >>>>>
>             
> ~/.m2/repository/org/apache/beam/beam-sdks-java-core/2.5.0-SNAPSHOT/beam-sdks-java-core-2.5.0-SNAPSHOT.pom
>             >>>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>             >>>>> <project xmlns="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0";
>             >>>>> xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0
>             >>>>> http://maven.apache.org/xsd/maven-4.0.0.xsd";
>             >>>>> xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";>
>             >>>>>   <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>
>             >>>>>   <groupId>org.apache.beam</groupId>
>             >>>>>   <artifactId>beam-sdks-java-core</artifactId>
>             >>>>>   <version>2.5.0-SNAPSHOT</version>
>             >>>>>   <name>Apache Beam :: SDKs :: Java :: Core</name>
>             >>>>> </project>
>             >>>>>
>             >>>>>
>             >>>>> Doesn't seem that ready ;)
>             >>>>>
>             >>>>>
>             >>>>>
>             >>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>             >>>>> @rmannibucau |  Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
>             >>>>>
>             >>>>> 2018-04-09 14:38 GMT+02:00 Romain Manni-Bucau
>             <rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>>:
>             >>>>>>
>             >>>>>> I will check now what's the pom status, if they are ok it 
> can
>             be worth
>             >>>>>> testing gradle
>             >>>>>>
>             >>>>>>
>             >>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>             >>>>>> @rmannibucau |  Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
>             >>>>>>
>             >>>>>> 2018-04-09 14:36 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>             <j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>>:
>             >>>>>>>
>             >>>>>>> Hi Reuven,
>             >>>>>>>
>             >>>>>>> that was on of the question. I proposed to stay with Maven
>             for 2.5.0
>             >>>>>>> and switch
>             >>>>>>> to Gradle to 2.6.0 (in order for us to stabilize gradle
>             build). But,
>             >>>>>>> it may
>             >>>>>>> worth to try 2.5.0 with Gradle.
>             >>>>>>>
>             >>>>>>> Regards
>             >>>>>>> JB
>             >>>>>>>
>             >>>>>>> On 04/09/2018 02:27 PM, Reuven Lax wrote:
>             >>>>>>> > To the folks working on Gradle last week - are we at 
> the point
>             >>>>>>> > where we can try
>             >>>>>>> > running this release purely using Gradle, or should we
>             wait until
>             >>>>>>> > 2.6.0?
>             >>>>>>> >
>             >>>>>>> > Reuven
>             >>>>>>> >
>             >>>>>>> > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:01 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>             >>>>>>> > <j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>
>             >>>>>>> > <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net <mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>>> 
> wrote:
>             >>>>>>> >
>             >>>>>>> >     Up ?
>             >>>>>>> >
>             >>>>>>> >     Regards
>             >>>>>>> >     JB
>             >>>>>>> >
>             >>>>>>> >     On 04/06/2018 10:48 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>             >>>>>>> >     > Hi guys,
>             >>>>>>> >     >
>             >>>>>>> >     > Apache Beam 2.4.0 has been released on March 20th.
>             >>>>>>> >     >
>             >>>>>>> >     > According to our cycle of release (roughly 6 
> weeks), we
>             >>>>>>> > should think about
>             >>>>>>> >     2.5.0.
>             >>>>>>> >     >
>             >>>>>>> >     > I'm volunteer to tackle this release.
>             >>>>>>> >     >
>             >>>>>>> >     > I'm proposing the following items:
>             >>>>>>> >     >
>             >>>>>>> >     > 1. We start the Jira triage now, up to Tuesday
>             >>>>>>> >     > 2. I would like to cut the release on Tuesday 
> night
>             (Europe
>             >>>>>>> > time)
>             >>>>>>> >     > 2bis. I think it's wiser to still use Maven for 
> this
>             release.
>             >>>>>>> > Do you think we
>             >>>>>>> >     > will be ready to try a release with Gradle ?
>             >>>>>>> >     >
>             >>>>>>> >     > After this release, I would like a discussion 
> about:
>             >>>>>>> >     > 1. Gradle release (if we release 2.5.0 with Maven)
>             >>>>>>> >     > 2. Isolate release cycle per Beam part. I think it
>             would be
>             >>>>>>> > interesting to
>             >>>>>>> >     have
>             >>>>>>> >     > different release cycle: SDKs, DSLs, Runners, IOs.
>             That's
>             >>>>>>> > another
>             >>>>>>> >     discussion, I
>             >>>>>>> >     > will start a thread about that.
>             >>>>>>> >     >
>             >>>>>>> >     > Thoughts ?
>             >>>>>>> >     >
>             >>>>>>> >     > Regards
>             >>>>>>> >     > JB
>             >>>>>>> >     >
>             >>>>>>> >
>             >>>>>>> >     --
>             >>>>>>> >     Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>             >>>>>>> >     jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>
>             <mailto:jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>>
>             >>>>>>> >     http://blog.nanthrax.net
>             >>>>>>> >     Talend - http://www.talend.com
>             >>>>>>> >
>             >>>>>>>
>             >>>>>>> --
>             >>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>             >>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org <mailto:jbono...@apache.org>
>             >>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>             >>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>             >>>>>>
>             >>>>>>
>             >>>>>
>             >>
>             >
> 
> 

-- 
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbono...@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com

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