Hi everyone, I was the one who initially wrote the PR with Idea instructions
<https://github.com/apache/beam-site/pull/414>. I was using 2017.3 as well
while writing it so all the instructions were tested on that version. I'll
try testing the instructions on 2018 to see if I can reproduce the issues
people are having.

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 9:51 AM Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:

> I use 2017.3 and it has been reliable for me. I haven't tried 2018 yet.
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:30 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Any of you using the idea 2018? the import works for me but then it is
>> not as smooth as it seems for you. I'm just trying to see if it is a
>> procedure thing or a version issue.
>>
>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> @rmannibucau |  Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
>>
>>
>> 2018-04-11 17:28 GMT+02:00 Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com>:
>> > The only reason I did "empty project then add a module" procedure was
>> to get
>> > all the IntelliJ files outside the source tree. IIRC directly creating
>> from
>> > existing sources didn't give the necessary configuration options. If you
>> > don't care about being able to `git clean` then you can do the shorter
>> > version. Also the particular UI for creation might have improved since I
>> > tried it. I'll do it again.
>> >
>> > On the pom, since it is only generated for machine reading, why care if
>> the
>> > parent is inlined? I actually prefer to avoid coupling with things that
>> you
>> > have to go and look up. Using inheritance is OK for human edited poms
>> > (actually IMO it is still a mistake) but it doesn't change the
>> semantics of
>> > a shipped pom if they are all immutable, which they should be. It is
>> better
>> > to have all the info right there. Is there an actually effective
>> difference?
>> >
>> > Kenn
>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 6:53 AM Etienne Chauchot <echauc...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >> I just tested gradle environment from a fresh source clone with this
>> >> procedure with just a tiny change: I used "new project from existing
>> >> sources" rather than create empty project and then add module.
>> >>
>> >> It works fine and junit runs from intellij also work.  with gradle we
>> pay
>> >> a 2s delay (on my machine) before running the actual test for each
>> run. This
>> >> delay seems quite constant no matter the module: I have run all the
>> tests at
>> >> once in  runner-core and a single test in another module with a similar
>> >> delay.
>> >>
>> >> I also tested a debug session from intellij and it runs fine also.
>> >>
>> >> I'll do some more testing and keep you posted.
>> >>
>> >> I still have some concerns about the potential difficulty for new
>> >> contributors to have to learn gradle in addition to Beam itself
>> comparing to
>> >> maven which is more mainstream for java developers. That could be
>> >> discouraging for ex for part-time contributors
>> >>
>> >> Etienne
>> >>
>> >> Le mardi 10 avril 2018 à 14:38 +0000, Lukasz Cwik a écrit :
>> >>
>> >> beam-site PR/414 updates the instructions for using Intellij and how to
>> >> import a module:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Create an empty IntelliJ project outside of the Beam source tree.
>> >> 2. Under Project Structure > Project, select a Project SDK.
>> >> 3. Under Project Structure > Modules, click the + sign to add a module
>> and
>> >>    select "Import Module".
>> >>     1. Select the directory containing the Beam source tree.
>> >>     2. Tick the "Import module from external model" button and select
>> >> Gradle
>> >>        from the list.
>> >>     3. Tick the following boxes.
>> >>        * Use auto-import
>> >>        * Create separate module per source set
>> >>        * Store generated project files externally
>> >>        * Use default gradle wrapper
>> >> 4. Delegate build actions to Gradle by going to Settings > Build,
>> >> Execution,
>> >>    Deployment > Build Tools > Gradle and checking "Delegate IDE
>> build/run
>> >>    actions to gradle".
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:34 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> That's a very important issue for contribution. Up to now, I used Maven
>> >> for setup IntelliJ (and it works just fine). If we remove the pom.xml,
>> >> we have to support Eclipse and IntelliJ "smoothly".
>> >>
>> >> Let me try in IntelliJ.
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> JB
>> >>
>> >> On 10/04/2018 15:21, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>> >> > You dont have issue due to the build setup with that option. I get:
>> >> >
>> >> > avr. 10, 2018 3:20:10 PM
>> >> > org.apache.beam.runners.direct.DirectTransformExecutor run
>> >> > GRAVE: Error occurred within
>> >> > org.apache.beam.runners.direct.DirectTransformExecutor@66761b7a
>> >> > com.google.common.util.concurrent.ExecutionError:
>> >> > java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/bytebuddy/NamingStrategy
>> >> >
>> >> > ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> > @rmannibucau |  Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 2018-04-10 15:13 GMT+02:00 Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com>:
>> >> >> I have found that the simplest setup is to delegate the build/test
>> >> >> actions
>> >> >> to Gradle. This allows you to run unit tests very easily and since
>> its
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> the same manner that Gradle would have, you know that if its
>> passing it
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> pass on the command line and on Jenkins. Here is one site that
>> >> >> discusses how
>> >> >> to set this up:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> http://mrhaki.blogspot.com/2016/11/gradle-goodness-delegate-build-and-run.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 8:45 AM Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> >> <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> What's the plan to make idea supporting gradle on beam project? Do
>> we
>> >> >>> import the workaround mentionned in
>> >> >>> https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-175172?
>> >> >>> For the ones who didn't see this issue in action: idea will
>> compile in
>> >> >>> out/ instead of build/ and you will just miss all the resources you
>> >> >>> need like some SPI registration which are used by all our
>> registrar =>
>> >> >>> no way to run tests in idea without hacking the configuration quite
>> >> >>> deeply :(
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> >>> @rmannibucau |  Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn | Book
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 2018-04-10 10:08 GMT+02:00 Etienne Chauchot <echauc...@apache.org
>> >:
>> >> >>>> As a gradle beginner, I could not agree more !
>> >> >>>> +1
>> >> >>>> Etienne
>> >> >>>> Le lundi 09 avril 2018 à 18:47 +0200, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a
>> écrit :
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Hi all,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I did multiple gradle build since last week and I would like to
>> share
>> >> >>>> one of my concern: it's about the communities.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> If I think our users won't see any change for them due to Gradle
>> >> >>>> build
>> >> >>>> (I think that most of our users will still use Maven with
>> artifacts
>> >> >>>> provided by Gradle), I'm more concerned by the dev community and
>> the
>> >> >>>> contribution.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Maven is well known and straight forward for a large part of
>> >> >>>> potential
>> >> >>>> contributors. I think we have to keep in mind that we still have
>> to
>> >> >>>> grow
>> >> >>>> up our contributors community.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Today, maybe I'm wrong, but I have the feeling that gradle build
>> is
>> >> >>>> not
>> >> >>>> straight forward (build.gradle includes build_rules.gradle,
>> gathering
>> >> >>>> all taks all together).
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I would like to add a task in the gradle "migration" process:
>> >> >>>> simplify
>> >> >>>> the gradle structure and files, and document this.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I know we already have a Jira about the documentation part, but I
>> >> >>>> would
>> >> >>>> like to "polish" and use a clean structure for the Gradle
>> resources.
>> >> >>>> As
>> >> >>>> already quickly discussed, I think that having one gradle file per
>> >> >>>> tasks
>> >> >>>> in the .gradle directory would be helpful.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> The goal is really to simplify the contribution.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Do you agree if I add a Jira about "Gradle polish" ?
>> >> >>>> Thoughts ?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Regards
>> >> >>>> JB
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On 07/04/2018 04:52, Scott Wegner wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Here's an end-of-day update on migration work:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> * Snapshot unsigned dailies and signed release builds are working
>> >> >>>> (!!).
>> >> >>>> PR/5048 [1] merges changes from Luke's branch
>> >> >>>>     * python precommit failing... will investigate python
>> precommit
>> >> >>>> Monday
>> >> >>>> * All Precommits are gradle only
>> >> >>>> * All Postcommits except performance tests and
>> Java_JDK_Versions_Test
>> >> >>>> use gradle (after PR/5047 [2] merged)
>> >> >>>> * Nightly snapshot release using gradle is ready; needs PR/5048
>> to be
>> >> >>>> merged before switching
>> >> >>>> * ValidatesRunner_Spark failing consistently; investigating
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Thanks for another productive day of hacking. I'll pick up again
>> on
>> >> >>>> Monday.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5048
>> >> >>>> [2] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5047
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 11:24 AM Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> >>>> <rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>      Why building a zip per runner which its stack and just
>> pointing
>> >> >>>> out
>> >> >>>>      on that zip and let beam lazy load the runner:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>      --runner=LazyRunner --lazyRunnerDir=...
>> --lazyRunnerOptions=...
>> >> >>>> (or
>> >> >>>>      the fromSystemProperties() if it gets merged a day ;))
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>      Le 6 avr. 2018 20:21, "Kenneth Knowles" <k...@google.com
>> >> >>>>      <mailto:k...@google.com>> a écrit :
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>          I'm working on finding a solution for launching the
>> Nexmark
>> >> >>>>          suite with each runner. This doesn't have to be done via
>> >> >>>> Gradle,
>> >> >>>>          but we anyhow need built artifacts that don't require
>> user
>> >> >>>>          classpath intervention.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>          It looks to me like the examples are also missing this -
>> >> >>>> they
>> >> >>>>          have separate configuration e.g. sparkRunnerPreCommit but
>> >> >>>> that
>> >> >>>>          is overspecified compared to a free-form launching of a
>> >> >>>> main()
>> >> >>>>          program with a runner profile.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>          On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 11:09 AM Lukasz Cwik
>> >> >>>> <lc...@google.com
>> >> >>>>          <mailto:lc...@google.com>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>              Romain, are you talking about the profiles that
>> exist as
>> >> >>>>              part of the archetype examples?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>              If so, then those still exist and haven't been
>> changed.
>> >> >>>> If
>> >> >>>>              not, can you provide a link to the profile in a pom
>> file
>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>>>              be clearer?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>              On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 12:40 PM Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> >>>>              <rmannibu...@gmail.com <mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com
>> >>
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>                  Hi Scott,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>                  is it right that 2 doesn't handle the hierachy
>> >> >>>> anymore
>> >> >>>>                  and that it doesn't handle profiles for runners
>> as
>> >> >>>> it is
>> >> >>>>                  currently with maven?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>                  Romain Manni-Bucau
>> >> >>>>                  @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |
>> >> >>>> Blog
>> >> >>>>                  <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
>> >> >>>>                  <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github
>> >> >>>>                  <https://github.com/rmannibucau> | LinkedIn
>> >> >>>>                  <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> <
>> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance
>> >
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>                  2018-04-06 18:32 GMT+02:00 Scott Wegner
>> >> >>>>                  <sweg...@google.com <mailto:sweg...@google.com
>> >>:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>                      I wanted to start a thread to summarize the
>> >> >>>> current
>> >> >>>>                      state of Gradle migration. We've made lots of
>> >> >>>> good
>> >> >>>>                      progress so far this week. Here's the status
>> >> >>>> from
>> >> >>>>                      what I can tell-- please add or correct
>> anything
>> >> >>>> I
>> >> >>>>                      missed:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>                      * Release artifacts can be built and
>> published
>> >> >>>> for
>> >> >>>>                      Snapshot and officlal releases [1]
>> >> >>>>                      * Gradle-generated releases have been
>> validated
>> >> >>>> with
>> >> >>>>                      the the Apache Beam archetype generation
>> >> >>>> quickstart;
>> >> >>>>                      still needs additional validation.
>> >> >>>>                      * Generated release pom files have correct
>> >> >>>> project
>> >> >>>>                      metadata [2]
>> >> >>>>                      * The python pre-commits are now working in
>> >> >>>> Gradle
>> >> >>>> [3]
>> >> >>>>                      * Ismaël has started a collaborative doc of
>> >> >>>> Gradle
>> >> >>>>                      tips [4] as we all learn the new system--
>> please
>> >> >>>> add
>> >> >>>>                      your own. This will eventually feed into
>> >> >>>> official
>> >> >>>>                      documentation on the website.
>> >> >>>>                      * Łukasz Gajowy is working on migrating
>> >> >>>> performance
>> >> >>>>                      testing framework [5]
>> >> >>>>                      * Daniel is working on updating
>> documentation to
>> >> >>>>                      refer to Gradle instead of maven
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>                      If I missed anything, please add it to this
>> >> >>>> thread.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>                      The general roadmap we're working towards is:
>> >> >>>>                      (a) Publish release artifacts with Gradle
>> >> >>>> (SNAPSHOT
>> >> >>>>                      and signed releases)
>> >> >>>>                      (b) Postcommits migrated to Gradle
>> >> >>>>                      (c) Migrate documentation from maven to
>> Gradle
>> >> >>>>                      (d) Migrate perfkit suites to use Gradle
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>                      For those of you that are hacking: thanks for
>> >> >>>> your
>> >> >>>>                      help so far! Progress is being roughly
>> tracked
>> >> >>>> on
>> >> >>>>                      the Kanban [6]; please make sure the issues
>> >> >>>> assigned
>> >> >>>>                      to you are up-to-date. Many of the changes
>> are
>> >> >>>>                      staged on lukecwik's local branch [7]; we'll
>> >> >>>> work on
>> >> >>>>                      merging them back soon.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>                      [1]
>> >> >>>> https://github.com/lukecwik/incubator-beam/pull/7
>> >> >>>>                      [2]
>> >> >>>> https://github.com/lukecwik/incubator-beam/pull/3
>> >> >>>>                      [3] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5032
>> >> >>>>                      [4]
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wR56Jef3XIPwj4DFzQKznuGPM3JDfRDVkxzeDlbdVSQ/edit
>> >> >>>>                      [5] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5003
>> >> >>>>                      [6]
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=242
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>                      [7]
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> https://github.com/lukecwik/incubator-beam/tree/gradle
>> >> >>>>                      --
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>                      Got feedback? http://go/swegner-feedback
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
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