Summary for all folks following this story -- and many thanks for
explaining configs to me and pointing me to files and such.

- Scott made changes to the config and we can now run 3
ValidatesRunner.Dataflow in parallel (each run is about 2 hours)
- With the latest quota changes, we peaked at ~70% capacity in concurrent
Dataflow jobs when running those
- I've been keeping an eye on quota peaks for all resources today and have
not seen any worryisome limits overall.
- Also note there are improvements planned to the ValidatesRunner.Dataflow
test so various items get batched and the test itself runs faster -- I
believe it's on Alan's radar

Cheers,
r

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 4:23 PM Rafael Fernandez <rfern...@google.com> wrote:

> Done!
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 4:10 PM Scott Wegner <sc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hey Rafael, looks like we need more 'INSTANCE_TEMPLATES' quota [1]. Can
>> you take a look? I've filed [BEAM-4722]:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-4722
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5861#issuecomment-401963630
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 11:33 AM Rafael Fernandez <rfern...@google.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, Scott just sent https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5860 . Quotas
>>> should not be a problem, if they are, please file a JIRA under gcp-quota.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> r
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 10:06 AM Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One thing that is nice when you do this is to be able to share your
>>>> results. Though if all you are sharing is "they passed" then I guess we
>>>> don't have to insist on evidence.
>>>>
>>>> Kenn
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 9:25 AM Scott Wegner <sc...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A few thoughts:
>>>>>
>>>>> * The Jenkins job getting backed up
>>>>> is beam_PostCommit_Java_ValidatesRunner_Dataflow_Gradle_PR [1]. Since
>>>>> Mikhail refactored Jenkins jobs, this only runs when explicitly requested
>>>>> via "Run Dataflow ValidatesRunner", and only has 8 total runs. So this job
>>>>> is idle more often than backlogged.
>>>>>
>>>>> * It's difficult to reason about our exact quota needs because
>>>>> Dataflow jobs get launched from various Jenkins jobs that have different
>>>>> parallelism configurations. If we have budget, we could enable concurrent
>>>>> execution of this job and increase our quota enough to give some breathing
>>>>> room. If we do this, I recommend limiting the max concurrency via
>>>>> throttleConcurrentBuilds [2] to some reasonable limit.
>>>>>
>>>>> * This test suite is meant to be an exhaustive post-commit validation
>>>>> of Dataflow runner, and tests a lot of different aspects of a runner. It
>>>>> would be more efficient to run locally only the tests affected by your
>>>>> change. Note that this requires having access to a GCP project with
>>>>> billing, but most Dataflow developers probably have access to this 
>>>>> already.
>>>>> The command for this is:
>>>>>
>>>>> ./gradlew :beam-runners-google-cloud-dataflow-java:validatesRunner
>>>>> -PdataflowProject=myGcpProject -PdataflowTempRoot=gs://myGcsTempRoot
>>>>> --tests "org.apache.beam.MyTestClass"
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/job/beam_PostCommit_Java_ValidatesRunner_Dataflow_Gradle_PR/buildTimeTrend
>>>>> [2]
>>>>> https://jenkinsci.github.io/job-dsl-plugin/#method/javaposse.jobdsl.dsl.jobs.FreeStyleJob.throttleConcurrentBuilds
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 8:33 AM Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The validates runner test parallelism is controlled here and is
>>>>>> currently set to be "unlimited":
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/fbfe6ceaea9d99cb1c8964087aafaa2bc2297a03/runners/google-cloud-dataflow-java/build.gradle#L115
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Each test fork is run on a different gradle worker, so the number of
>>>>>> parallel test runs is limited to the max number of workers configured 
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> is controlled here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/fbfe6ceaea9d99cb1c8964087aafaa2bc2297a03/.test-infra/jenkins/job_PostCommit_Java_ValidatesRunner_Dataflow.groovy#L50
>>>>>> It is currently configured to 3 * number of CPU cores.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are already running up to 48 Dataflow jobs in parallel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 9:51 AM Rafael Fernandez <rfern...@google.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - How many resources to ValidatesRunner tests use?
>>>>>>> - Where are those settings?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 9:50 AM Reuven Lax <re...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The specific issue only affects Dataflow ValidatesRunner tests. We
>>>>>>>> currently allow only one of these to run at a time, to control usage of
>>>>>>>> Dataflow and of GCE quota. Other types of tests do not suffer from this
>>>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to see if it's possible to increase Dataflow quota so
>>>>>>>> we can run more of these in parallel. It took me 8 hours end to end to 
>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>> these tests (about 6 hours for the run to be scheduled). If there was a
>>>>>>>> failure, I would have had to repeat the whole process. In the worst 
>>>>>>>> case,
>>>>>>>> this process could have taken me days. While this is not as pressing as
>>>>>>>> some other issues (as most people don't need to run the Dataflow tests 
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> every PR), fixing it would make such changes much easier to manage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reuven
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 9:32 AM Rafael Fernandez <
>>>>>>>> rfern...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +Reuven Lax <re...@google.com> told me yesterday that he was
>>>>>>>>> waiting for some test to be scheduled and run, and it took 6 hours or 
>>>>>>>>> so. I
>>>>>>>>> would like to help reduce these wait times by increasing parallelism. 
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> need help understanding the continuous minimum of what we use. It 
>>>>>>>>> seems the
>>>>>>>>> following is true:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - There seems to always be 16 jenkins machines on (16 CPUs
>>>>>>>>>    each)
>>>>>>>>>    - There seems to be three GKE machines always on (1 CPU each)
>>>>>>>>>    - Most (if not all) unit tests run on 1 machine, and seem to
>>>>>>>>>    run one-at-a-time <-- I think we can safely parallelize this to 20.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With current quotas, if we parallelize to 20 concurrent unit
>>>>>>>>> tests, we still have room for 80 other concurrent dataflow jobs to 
>>>>>>>>> execute,
>>>>>>>>> with 75% of CPU capacity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thoughts? Additional data?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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