Thanks for taking this up. I added some comments to the doc. A
European-friendly time for discussion would be great.

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:14 AM Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:

> I came up with a proposal[1] for a progress model solely based off of the
> backlog and that splits should be based upon the remaining backlog we want
> the SDK to split at. I also give recommendations to runner authors as to
> how an autoscaling system could work based upon the measured backlog. A lot
> of discussions around progress reporting and splitting in the past has
> always been around finding an optimal solution, after reading a lot of
> information about work stealing, I don't believe there is a general
> solution and it really is upto SplittableDoFns to be well behaved. I did
> not do much work in classifying what a well behaved SplittableDoFn is
> though. Much of this work builds off ideas that Eugene had documented in
> the past[2].
>
> I could use the communities wide knowledge of different I/Os to see if
> computing the backlog is practical in the way that I'm suggesting and to
> gather people's feedback.
>
> If there is a lot of interest, I would like to hold a community video
> conference between Sept 10th and 14th about this topic. Please reply with
> your availability by Sept 6th if your interested.
>
> 1: https://s.apache.org/beam-bundles-backlog-splitting
> 2: https://s.apache.org/beam-breaking-fusion
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:21 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Awesome !
>>
>> Thanks Luke !
>>
>> I plan to work with you and others on this one.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>> Le 13 août 2018, à 19:14, Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com> a écrit:
>>>
>>> I wanted to reach out that I will be continuing from where Eugene left
>>> off with SplittableDoFn. I know that many of you have done a bunch of work
>>> with IOs and/or runner integration for SplittableDoFn and would appreciate
>>> your help in advancing this awesome idea. If you have questions or things
>>> you want to get reviewed related to SplittableDoFn, feel free to send them
>>> my way or include me on anything SplittableDoFn related.
>>>
>>> I was part of several discussions with Eugene and I think the biggest
>>> outstanding design portion is to figure out how dynamic work rebalancing
>>> would play out with the portability APIs. This includes reporting of
>>> progress from within a bundle. I know that Eugene had shared some documents
>>> in this regard but the position / split models didn't work too cleanly in a
>>> unified sense for bounded and unbounded SplittableDoFns. It will likely
>>> take me awhile to gather my thoughts but could use your expertise as to how
>>> compatible these ideas are with respect to to IOs and runners
>>> Flink/Spark/Dataflow/Samza/Apex/... and obviously help during
>>> implementation.
>>>
>>

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