Good points, Kenn : ) - I know Yifan looked into running tests using
Docker. I imagine a testing container could have a set of dependencies
installed, and reduce the amount of installations we perform from PyPi.
Best
-P.

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 11:49 AM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:

> Flakiness in Java got a lot better when we put the Maven cache outside the
> wiped build directory. I am not sure about Gradle now... It is obviously
> less hermetic, but these things should be immutable so a cache is
> acceptable.
>
> Is there a way to achieve this for Python? For Maven/Gradle a package
> being downloaded does not imply it is available for import. If downloaded
> == importable then you risk masking errors.
>
> Kenn
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 11:44 AM Udi Meiri <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That runs the risk of overloading our test machines when the build goes
>> red.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 11:29 AM Alex Amato <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> It would be ideal to not need manual steps. If known flakey tests can be
>>> auto retried that would be a great improvement.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 11:24 AM Valentyn Tymofieiev <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We could do something along the lines of retry with a back-off. Note
>>>> that Java tests also have this problem as we sometimes fail to fetch
>>>> packages from Maven Central.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 11:19 AM Pablo Estrada <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hm no, these are somewhat common. Yes, I think we could have retries
>>>>> to try to fix this sort of problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps a mixture of reusing a virtualenv, and having retries when
>>>>> creating it?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 11:15 AM Alex Amato <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay but this occurred on jenkins. So does the machine need an update?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:43 AM Valentyn Tymofieiev <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think you hit a pypi flake.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pip install futures>=2.2.0 works fine for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:41 AM Alex Amato <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would be nice to fix this as it can slow down PRs. I am not sure if 
>>>>>>>> this one is fixed on retry yet or not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-7164?filter=-2 
>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-7164?filter=-2>*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *https://builds.apache.org/job/beam_PreCommit_Python_Commit/6035/consoleFull
>>>>>>>> <https://builds.apache.org/job/beam_PreCommit_Python_Commit/6035/consoleFull>*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>  Collecting futures>=2.2.0; python_version < "3.2" (from 
>>>>>>>> grpcio>=1.3.5->grpcio-tools==1.3.5)*18:05:44*   ERROR: Could not find 
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>>>>>>>> python_version < "3.2" (from grpcio>=1.3.5->grpcio-tools==1.3.5) (from 
>>>>>>>> versions: none)*18:05:44* ERROR: No matching distribution found for 
>>>>>>>> futures>=2.2.0; python_version < "3.2" (from 
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>>>>>>>> :beam-sdks-python-test-suites-dataflow:setupVirtualenv* 
>>>>>>>> FAILED*18:05:46*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> <https://builds.apache.org/job/beam_PreCommit_Python_Commit/6035/consoleFull>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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