So it seams that the Java SDK has two different Join libraries?

With Schema:
https://github.com/apache/beam/tree/77b295b1c2b0a206099b8f50c4d3180c248e252c/sdks/java/core/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/schemas/transforms
And Another one:
https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/77b295b1c2b0a206099b8f50c4d3180c248e252c/sdks/java/extensions/join-library/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/extensions/joinlibrary/Join.java

So how does it handle that?

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 12:39 PM Shannon Duncan <joseph.dun...@liveramp.com>
wrote:

> Yeah these are for local testing right now. I was hoping to gain insight
> on better naming.
>
> I was thinking of creating an "extras" module.
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019, 12:28 PM Robin Qiu <robi...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Shannon,
>>
>> Thanks for sharing the repo! I took a quick look and I have a concern
>> with the naming of the transforms.
>>
>> Currently, Beam Java already have "Select" and "Join" transforms.
>> However, they work on schemas, a feature that is not yet implemented in
>> Beam Python. (See
>> https://github.com/apache/beam/tree/77b295b1c2b0a206099b8f50c4d3180c248e252c/sdks/java/core/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/schemas/transforms
>> )
>>
>> To maintain consistency between SDKs, I think it is good to avoid having
>> two different transforms with the same name but different functions. So
>> maybe you can consider renaming the transforms or/and putting it in an
>> extension Python module, instead of the main ones?
>>
>> Best,
>> Robin
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 9:19 AM Shannon Duncan <joseph.dun...@liveramp.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As a follow up. Here is the repo that contains the utilities for now.
>>> https://github.com/shadowcodex/apache-beam-utilities. Will put together
>>> a proper PR as code gets closer to production quality.
>>>
>>> - Shannon
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 9:20 AM Shannon Duncan <
>>> joseph.dun...@liveramp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Frederik,
>>>>
>>>> That's exactly where I was looking. I did get permission to open source
>>>> the utilities module. So I'm going to throw them up on my personal github
>>>> soon and share with the email group for a look over.
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to work on the utilities there because it's a quick dev
>>>> environment and then once they are ready for proper PR I'll begin working
>>>> them into the actual SDK for a PR.
>>>>
>>>> I also joined the slack #beam and #beam-python channels, I was unsure
>>>> of where most collaborators discussed items.
>>>>
>>>> - Shannon
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 9:09 AM Frederik Bode <frederik.b...@ml6.eu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Shannon,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is probably a good starting point:
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/2d5e493abf39ee6fc89831bb0b7ec9fee592b9c5/sdks/python/apache_beam/transforms/combiners.py#L68
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> Frederik
>>>>>
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>>>>> On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 15:40, Shannon Duncan <
>>>>> joseph.dun...@liveramp.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure I could use some of the existing aggregations as a guide on
>>>>>> how to make aggregations to fill the gap of missing ones. Such as 
>>>>>> creating
>>>>>> Sum/Max/Min.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GroupBy is really already handled with GroupByKey and CoGroupByKey
>>>>>> unless you are thinking of a different type of GroupBy?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Shannon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 10:47 PM Rui Wang <ruw...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe also adding Aggregation/GroupBy as utilities?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Rui
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2019 at 1:46 PM Shannon Duncan <
>>>>>>> joseph.dun...@liveramp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Valentyn,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll outline the utilities and accept any suggestions to add /
>>>>>>>> modify. These are really just shortcut PTransforms that I am working 
>>>>>>>> on to
>>>>>>>> simplify creating pipelines.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Currently the utilities contain the following PTransforms:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Inner Join
>>>>>>>> - Left Outer Join
>>>>>>>> - Right Outer Join
>>>>>>>> - Full Outer Join
>>>>>>>> - PrepareKey (For selecting items in a dictionary to act as a key
>>>>>>>> for the joins)
>>>>>>>> - Select (very simple filter that returns only items you want from
>>>>>>>> the dictionary) (allows for defining a default nullValue)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Currently these operations only work with dictionaries, but I'd be
>>>>>>>> interested to see how it would work for <K,V> tuples.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm new to python so they may not be optimized or the best way, but
>>>>>>>> from my understanding these seem to be the best way to do these types 
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> operations. Essentially I created a pipeline to be able to convert a 
>>>>>>>> simple
>>>>>>>> sql query into a flow of these utilities. Using prepareKey to define 
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> joining key, joining, and then selecting from the join allows you to 
>>>>>>>> do a
>>>>>>>> lot of powerful manipulation in a simple / familiar way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If this is something that we'd like to add to the Beam SDK I don't
>>>>>>>> mind looking at the contributor license agreement, and conversing more 
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> how to get them in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Shannon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 5:16 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev <
>>>>>>>> valen...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Shannon,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for considering a contribution to Beam Python SDK. With a
>>>>>>>>> direct contribution to Beam SDK, your change will reach larger 
>>>>>>>>> audience of
>>>>>>>>> users, and you will not have to maintain a separate project and keep 
>>>>>>>>> it up
>>>>>>>>> to date with new releases of Beam.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I encourage you to take a look at
>>>>>>>>> https://beam.apache.org/contribute/ for general advice on how to
>>>>>>>>> get started. To echo some points mentioned in the guide:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - If your change is large or it is your first change, it is a good
>>>>>>>>> idea to discuss it on the dev@ mailing list
>>>>>>>>> - For large changes create a design doc (template, examples) and
>>>>>>>>> email it to the dev@ mailing list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Valentyn
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 3:04 PM Shannon Duncan <
>>>>>>>>> joseph.dun...@liveramp.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have been writing a bunch of utilities for the python SDK such
>>>>>>>>>> as joins, selections, composite transforms, etc...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am working with my company to see if I can open source the
>>>>>>>>>> utilities. Would it be best to post them on a separate PyPi project, 
>>>>>>>>>> or to
>>>>>>>>>> PR them into the beam SDK? I assume if they let me open source it 
>>>>>>>>>> they will
>>>>>>>>>> want some attribution or something like that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Shannon
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>

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