Glad to hear we have such a forward-thinking community!

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 2:43 PM Robert Bradshaw <rober...@google.com> wrote:

> Sounds like we have consensus. Let's move forward. I'll follow up with
> the discussions on the PRs themselves.
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 2:38 PM Robert Bradshaw <rober...@google.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 1:26 PM Chad Dombrova <chad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Do you believe that a future mypy plugin could replace pipeline type
> checks in Beam, or are there limits to what it can do?
> > >
> > > mypy will get us quite far on its own once we completely annotate the
> beam code.  That said, my PR does not include my efforts to turn
> PTransforms into Generics, which will be required to properly analyze
> pipelines, so there's still a lot more work to do.  I've experimented with
> a mypy plugin to smooth over some of the rough spots in that workflow and I
> will just say that the mypy API has a very steep learning curve.
> > >
> > > Another thing to note: mypy is very explicit about function
> annotations.  It does not do the "implicit" inference that Beam does, such
> as automatically detecting function return types.  I think it should be
> possible to do a lot of that as a mypy plugin, and in fact, since it has
> little to do with Beam it could grow into its own project with outside
> contributors.
> >
> > Yeah, I don't think, as is, it can replace what we do, but with
> > plugins I think it could possibly come closer. Certainly there is
> > information that is only available at runtime (e.g. reading from a
> > database or avro/parquet file could provide the schema which can be
> > used for downstream checking) which may limit the ability to do
> > everything statically (even Beam Java is moving this direction). Mypy
> > clearly has an implementation of the "is compatible with" operator
> > that I would love to borrow, but unfortunately it's not (easily?)
> > exposed.
> >
> > That being said, we should leverage what we can for pipeline
> > authoring, and it'll be a great development too regardless.
>

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