Is there an observation that enabling tenacity improves the
development experience on Python SDK? E.g. less wait time to get PR pass
and merged? Or it might be a matter of a right number of retry to align
with the "flakiness" of a test?


-Rui

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:38 AM Valentyn Tymofieiev <valen...@google.com>
wrote:

> We used tenacity[1] to retry some unit tests for which we understood the
> nature of flakiness.
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/3b9aae2bcaeb48ab43a77368ae496edc73634c91/sdks/python/apache_beam/runners/portability/fn_api_runner/fn_runner_test.py#L1156
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:25 AM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Didn't we use something like that flaky retry plugin for Python tests at
>> some point? Adding retries may be preferable to disabling the test. We need
>> a process to remove the retries ASAP though. As Luke says that is not so
>> easy to make happen. Having a way to make P1 bugs more visible in an
>> ongoing way may help.
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 8:57 AM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think I have seen tests that were previously disabled become
>>> re-enabled.
>>>
>>> It seems as though we have about ~60 disabled tests in Java and ~15 in
>>> Python. Half of the Java ones seem to be in ZetaSQL/SQL due to missing
>>> features so unrelated to being a flake.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 8:49 AM Gleb Kanterov <g...@spotify.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is something called test-retry-gradle-plugin [1]. It retries
>>>> tests if they fail, and have different modes to handle flaky tests. Did we
>>>> ever try or consider using it?
>>>>
>>>> [1]: https://github.com/gradle/test-retry-gradle-plugin
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 1:15 PM Gleb Kanterov <g...@spotify.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree with what Ahmet is saying. I can share my perspective,
>>>>> recently I had to retrigger build 6 times due to flaky tests, and each
>>>>> retrigger took one hour of waiting time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've seen examples of automatic tracking of flaky tests, where a test
>>>>> is considered flaky if both fails and succeeds for the same git SHA. Not
>>>>> sure if there is anything we can enable to get this automatically.
>>>>>
>>>>> /Gleb
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:33 AM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it will be reasonable to disable/sickbay any flaky test that
>>>>>> is actively blocking people. Collective cost of flaky tests for such a
>>>>>> large group of contributors is very significant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most of these issues are unassigned. IMO, it makes sense to assign
>>>>>> these issues to the most relevant person (who added the test/who 
>>>>>> generally
>>>>>> maintains those components). Those people can either fix and re-enable 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> tests, or remove them if they no longer provide valuable signals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ahmet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 4:55 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The situation is much worse than that IMO. My experience of the last
>>>>>>> few days is that a large portion of time went to *just connecting 
>>>>>>> failing
>>>>>>> runs with the corresponding Jira tickets or filing new ones*.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Summarized on PRs:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  - https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12272#issuecomment-659050891
>>>>>>>  - https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12273#issuecomment-659070317
>>>>>>>  - https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12225#issuecomment-656973073
>>>>>>>  - https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12225#issuecomment-657743373
>>>>>>>  - https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12224#issuecomment-657744481
>>>>>>>  - https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12216#issuecomment-657735289
>>>>>>>  - https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12216#issuecomment-657780781
>>>>>>>  - https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12216#issuecomment-657799415
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The tickets:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-10460
>>>>>>> SparkPortableExecutionTest
>>>>>>>  - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-10471 CassandraIOTest
>>>>>>> > testEstimatedSizeBytes
>>>>>>>  - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-10504
>>>>>>> ElasticSearchIOTest > testWriteFullAddressing and testWriteWithIndexFn
>>>>>>>  - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-10470 JdbcDriverTest
>>>>>>>  - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-8025 CassandraIOTest
>>>>>>> > @BeforeClass (classmethod)
>>>>>>>  - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-8454 FnHarnessTest
>>>>>>>  - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-10506
>>>>>>> SplunkEventWriterTest
>>>>>>>  - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-10472 direct runner
>>>>>>> ParDoLifecycleTest
>>>>>>>  - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-9187
>>>>>>> DefaultJobBundleFactoryTest
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here are our P1 test flake bugs:
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20BEAM%20AND%20status%20in%20(Open%2C%20%22In%20Progress%22)%20AND%20resolution%20%3D%20Unresolved%20AND%20labels%20%3D%20flake%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20DESC%2C%20updated%20DESC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems quite a few of them are actively hindering people right now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 4:23 PM Andrew Pilloud <apill...@google.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have two test suites that are responsible for a large percentage
>>>>>>>> of our flaky tests and  both have bugs open for about a year without 
>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>> fixed. These suites are ParDoLifecycleTest (BEAM-8101
>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-8101>) in Java
>>>>>>>> and BigQueryWriteIntegrationTests in python (py3 BEAM-9484
>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-9484>, py2 BEAM-9232
>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-9232>, old duplicate
>>>>>>>> BEAM-8197 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-8197>).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are there any volunteers to look into these issues? What can we do
>>>>>>>> to mitigate the flakiness until someone has time to investigate?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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