On Thu, Jul 16, 2020, 19:07 Chamikara Jayalath <chamik...@google.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 6:16 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev <valen...@google.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the feedback, help with release validation, and for reaching
>> out on dev@ regarding a cherry-pick request.
>>
>> BEAM-10397 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-10397> pertains
>> to new functionality (xlang support on Dataflow). Are there any reasons
>> that this fix cannot wait until 2.24.0 (release cut date 4 weeks from now)?
>>
>> For transparency, I would like to list other cherry-pick requests that I
>> received off-the list (stakeholders bcc'ed):
>> - https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12175
>> - https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12196
>> - https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12171
>> - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-10492 (recently added)
>> - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-10385
>> - https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12187 (was available before any of
>> RC1 artifacts were created and integrated)
>>
>
> My main concern is Python changes in
> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12164. Other changes (at least
> related to x-lang) can wait.
>
>
>>
>> My response to such requests is guided by the release guide [1]:
>>
>> - None of the issues were a regression from a previous release.
>> - Most are related to new or recently introduced functionality.
>> - 3 of the requests are related to xlang io, which is very exciting and
>> important functionality, but arguably does not impact a large percentage of
>> [existing] users.
>>
>
> Agree that this is not a regression from the previous release but it may
> result in inconsistent behavior when users execute x-lang pipelines.
> Actually I think this is a pretty serious issue for portability (we are not
> setting the environment in WindowingStrategy) but for some reason we are
> not hitting this in other tests.
>
>
>>
>> So they do not seem to be release-blocking according to the guide.
>>
>> At this point creating a new RC would delay 2.23.0 availability by at
>> least a week. While a new RC will improve the stability of xlang IO, it
>> will also delay the release of  features and bug fixes available in 2.23.0.
>> It will also create a precedent of inconsistency with release
>> policy. Should we delay the release if we discover another xlang issue
>> during validation next week?
>>
>
> To be honest, I don't think re-validating after the cherry-pick mentioned
> above will take a week (unless we find other issues). We just need to
> rebuild and re-validate the Python distribution and may be rebuild Dataflow
> containers. I'm volunteering to help you with this :)
>

I was taking 72hrs of voting Window into account that must happen outside
of the weekend and the fact that I will be OOO for one day.

If the issue you mention seriously impacts (can cause data loss, pipeline
failures) all of users on portable stack or other large user base  (not
just cross-language support in Dataflow (new user-base) ), this is
definitely a candidate for an ASAP fix.

What is your assessment of the size of the user base that is affected by
the issue (large, medium, small, does not affect production for any of
existing users)?

Thanks!


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>>
>> My preferred course of action is to continue with RC0, since release
>> velocity is important for product health.
>>
>> Given that we are having this conversation, we can revise the cherry-pick
>> policy if we think it does not adequately cover this situation.
>>
>
> Agree. We have a very strong policy currently regarding cherry-picks but
> it's up to the release manager to look into requests on a case-by-case
> basis.
>
>
>>
>> We can also propose a patch-version release  with urgent cherry-picks
>> (release 2.23.1), or consider a faster release cadence if 6 weeks is too
>> slow.
>>
>
> Honestly I don't think this is practical. Making a new patch release,
> validation, vote etc will take 2 weeks or so. We either should cherry-pick
> this into current release or wait till the next one. I think patch releases
> should be reserved for critical updates to LTS releases.
>
> Thanks,
> Cham
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Valentyn
>>
>> [1] https://beam.apache.org/contribute/release-guide/#review-cherry-picks
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 5:41 PM Chamikara Jayalath <chamik...@google.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree. I think Dataflow x-lang users could run into flaky pipelines
>>> due to this. Valentyn, are you OK with creating a new RC that includes the
>>> fix (already merged - https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12164) and
>>> preferably https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12196 ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Cham
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 5:27 PM Heejong Lee <heej...@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think we need to cherry-pick
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-10397 which fixes missing
>>>> environment errors for Dataflow xlang pipelines. Internally, we have a
>>>> flaky xlang kafkaio test because of missing environment errors and any
>>>> xlang pipelines using GroupByKey could encounter this.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 5:08 PM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 4:55 PM Robert Bradshaw <rober...@google.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> All the artifacts, signatures, and hashes look good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to understand the severity of
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-10397 before giving my
>>>>>> vote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> +Heejong Lee <heej...@google.com> to comment on this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 10:51 AM Pablo Estrada <pabl...@google.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > +1
>>>>>> > I was able to run the python 3.8 quickstart from wheels on
>>>>>> DirectRunner.
>>>>>> > I verified hashes for Python files.
>>>>>> > -P.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 4:34 PM Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I validated the python 3 quickstarts. I had issues with running
>>>>>> with python 3.8 wheel files, but did not have issues with source
>>>>>> distributions, or other python wheel files. I have not tested python 2
>>>>>> quickstarts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did someone validate python 3.8 wheels on Dataflow? I was not able to
>>>>> run that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:53 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev <
>>>>>> valen...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Please review and vote on the release candidate #1 for the
>>>>>> version 2.23.0, as follows:
>>>>>> >>> [ ] +1, Approve the release
>>>>>> >>> [ ] -1, Do not approve the release (please provide specific
>>>>>> comments)
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> The complete staging area is available for your review, which
>>>>>> includes:
>>>>>> >>> * JIRA release notes [1],
>>>>>> >>> * the official Apache source release to be deployed to
>>>>>> dist.apache.org [2], which is signed with the key with fingerprint
>>>>>> 1DF50603225D29A4 [3],
>>>>>> >>> * all artifacts to be deployed to the Maven Central Repository
>>>>>> [4],
>>>>>> >>> * source code tag "v2.23.0-RС1" [5],
>>>>>> >>> * website pull request listing the release [6], publishing the
>>>>>> API reference manual [7], and the blog post [8].
>>>>>> >>> * Java artifacts were built with Maven 3.6.0 and Oracle JDK
>>>>>> 1.8.0_201-b09 .
>>>>>> >>> * Python artifacts are deployed along with the source release to
>>>>>> the dist.apache.org [2].
>>>>>> >>> * Validation sheet with a tab for 2.23.0 release to help with
>>>>>> validation [9].
>>>>>> >>> * Docker images published to Docker Hub [10].
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. It is adopted by
>>>>>> majority approval, with at least 3 PMC affirmative votes.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>> Release Manager
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> [1]
>>>>>> https://jira.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12319527&version=12347145
>>>>>> >>> [2] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/beam/2.23.0/
>>>>>> >>> [3] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/beam/KEYS
>>>>>> >>> [4]
>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachebeam-1105/
>>>>>> >>> [5] https://github.com/apache/beam/tree/v2.23.0-RC1
>>>>>> >>> [6] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12212
>>>>>> >>> [7] https://github.com/apache/beam-site/pull/605
>>>>>> >>> [8] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12213
>>>>>> >>> [9]
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qk-N5vjXvbcEk68GjbkSZTR8AGqyNUM-oLFo_ZXBpJw/edit#gid=596347973
>>>>>> >>> [10] https://hub.docker.com/search?q=apache%2Fbeam&type=image
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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