On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 1:18 AM Jan Lukavský <je...@seznam.cz> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'll give my two cents here.
>
> I'm not 100% sure that the 1-5% of bugs are as severe as other types of
> bugs. Yes, throwing NPEs at user is not very polite. On the other hand,
> many of these actually boil down to user errors. Then we might ask what a
> correct solution would be. If we manage to figure out what the actual
> problem is and tell user what specifically is missing or going wrong, that
> would be just awesome. On the other hand, if a tool used for avoiding
> "unexpected" NPEs forces us to code
>
>    Object value = Objects.requireNonNull(myNullableObject); // or similar
> using Preconditions
>    value.doStuff();
>
> instead of just
>
>   myNullableObject.doStuff()
>
> what we actually did, is a) made a framework happy, and b) changed a line
> at which NPE is thrown by 1 (and yes, internally prevented JVM from thrown
> SIGSEGV at itself, but that is deeply technical thing). Nothing changed
> semantically, from user perspective.
>
I'd argue there's value in asking Beam developers to make that change. It
makes us acknowledge that there's a possibility myNullableObject is null.
If myNullableObject being null is something relevant to the user we would
likely want to wrap it in some other exception or provide a more useful
message than just NPE(!!).

>
> Now, given that the framework significantly rises compile time (due to all
> the checks), causes many "bugs" being reported by static code analysis
> tools (because the framework adds @Nonnull default annotations everywhere,
> even when Beam's code actually counts with nullability of a field), and
> given how much we currently suppress these checks ($ git grep BEAM-10402 |
> wc -l -> 1981), I'd say this deserves a deeper discussion.
>
The reason there are so many suppressions is that fixing all the errors is
a monumental task. Rather than addressing them all, Kenn programmatically
added suppressions for classes that failed the checks (
https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/13261). This allowed us to start
running the checker on the code that passes it while the errors are fixed.

>  Jan
>
>
> On 1/20/21 10:48 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>
> Yes, completely sound nullability checking has been added to the project
> via checkerframework, based on a large number of NPE bugs (1-5% depending
> on how you search, but many other bugs likely attributable to
> nullness-based design errors) which are extra embarrassing because NPEs
> have were essentially solved, even in practice for Java, well before Beam
> existed.
>
> Checker framework is a pluggable type system analysis with some amount of
> control flow sensitivity. Every value has a type that is either nullable or
> not, and certain control structures (like checking for null) can alter the
> type inside a scope. The best way to think about it is to consider every
> value in the program as either nullable or not, much like you think of
> every value as either a string or not, and to view method calls as
> inherently stateful/nondetermistic. This can be challenging in esoteric
> cases, but usually makes the overall code health better anyhow.
>
> Your example illustrates how problematic the design of the Java language
> is: the analysis cannot assume that `getDescription` is a pure function,
> and neither should you. Even if it is aware of boolean-short-circuit it
> would not be sound to accept this code. There is an annotation for this in
> the cases where it is true (like proto-generate getters):
> https://checkerframework.org/api/org/checkerframework/dataflow/qual/Pure.html
>
> The refactor for cases like this is trivial so there isn't a lot of value
> to thinking too hard about it.
>
> if (statusCode.equals(Code.INVALID_ARGUMENT)
>   @Nullable String desc = statusCode.toStatus().getDescription();
>   if (desc != null && desc.contains("finalized")) {
>     return false;
>   }
> }
>
> To a casual eye, this may look like a noop change. To the analysis it
> makes all the difference. And IMO this difference is real. Humans may
> assume it is a noop and humans would be wrong. So many times when you
> think/expect/hope that `getXYZ()` is a trivial getter method you later
> learn that it was tweaked for some odd reason. I believe this code change
> makes the code better. Suppressing these errors should be exceptionally
> rare, and never in normal code. It is far better to improve your code than
> to suppress the issue.
>
> It would be very cool for the proto compiler to annotate enough that
> new-and-improved type checkers could make things more convenient.
>
> Kenn
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 8:53 PM Reuven Lax <re...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> I can use that trick. However I'm surprised that the check appears to be
>> so simplistic.
>>
>> For example, the following code triggers the check on
>> getDescription().contains(), since getDescription returns a Nullable
>> string. However even a simplistic analysis should realize that
>> getDescription() was checked for null first! I have a dozen or so cases
>> like this, and I question how useful such a simplistic check it will be.
>>
>> if (statusCode.equals(Code.INVALID_ARGUMENT)    && 
>> statusCode.toStatus().getDescription() != null    && 
>> statusCode.toStatus().getDescription().contains("finalized")) {  return 
>> false;
>> }
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 8:32 PM Boyuan Zhang <boyu...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah it seems like the checker is enabled:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-10402. I used
>>> @SuppressWarnings({"nullness" )}) to suppress the error when I think it's
>>> not really a concern.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 8:28 PM Reuven Lax <re...@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has extra Nullable checking been enabled in the Beam project? I have a
>>>> PR that was on hold for several months, and I'm struggling now with compile
>>>> failing to complaints about assigning something that is nullable to
>>>> something that is not nullable. Even when the immediate control flow makes
>>>> it absolutely impossible for the variable to be null.
>>>>
>>>> Has something changed here?
>>>>
>>>> Reuven
>>>>
>>>

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