Hi Everyone,

Thank you for sharing this information, it's very helpful!

On a separate note, I'm currently setting up my environment using the wiki
link (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/BEAM/Python+Tips). I've
noticed that it doesn't include information for Python 3.13.

Would someone with edit access be able to update the document to include
this? It should be a minor edit.

Thanks,
Rakesh

On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 8:11 PM Robert Burke <rob...@frantil.com> wrote:

> ULR = Universal Local Runner
>
> Largely meaning it's a Portable Local Runner, using Bean Portability, as
> that allows it to be used for any SDK.
>
> The python one replaced a Java attempt at one which wasn't complete
> enough, and wasn't as good as the existing (and current) Java Direct Runner.
>
> Prism (a Go ULR ;) ) is largely a response to Go direct runner being not
> great to begin with, while also being easier to distribute to other SDKs,
> by virtue of being a single static binary (Go's specialty).
>
> The python runner likely won't go away any time soon, but by making all
> the SDKs have the same single runner by default, we provide a more
> consistent experience across SDKs and their documentation about
> capabilities, which has been very inconsistent across local experiences and
> testing.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2025, 6:55 PM Joey Tran <joey.t...@schrodinger.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 7:52 PM Robert Bradshaw <rober...@waymo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 3:57 PM Robert Burke <rob...@frantil.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > +1
>>> >
>>> > You should be able to use the Prism runner to implement this locally.
>>> >
>>> > Prism passes the full suite of java MultimapState tests, and will
>>> ensure the implementation works on runners like Google Cloud Dataflow.
>>> >
>>> > I do not recommend spending time implementing multimap state in the
>>> python direct runner if it's not already supported.
>>>
>>> Of course it's already supported in the local Python ULR :)
>>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/sdks/python/apache_beam/runners/portability/fn_api_runner/worker_handlers.py#L974
>>>
>>> This will, of course, be a much welcome addition to the Python SDK,
>>> and +1 to making sure it works on Prism as well.
>>>
>>
>> What's ULR stand for?
>>
>> Does this mean that when Prism runner becomes fully supported, the python
>> worker infrastructure like the worker handlers and won't have any further
>> use :'( ? Or are they used for more than just the python DirectRunner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2025, 10:58 AM Shunping Huang via dev <
>>> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> +1
>>> >> I think it will be great to have that in Python SDK.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Jun 15, 2025 at 5:22 PM Rakesh Kumar <rakeshcu...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hey Everyone,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> While updating the stateful processing document [1] I noticed that
>>> Java SDK has MultimapState [2] but it is missing from Python SDK. This was
>>> introduced as part of this PR: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/23491
>>> >>> If no one has an objection, then I would like to implement this as
>>> part of the Python SDK.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thank you,
>>> >>> Rakesh
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 1. https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/35209
>>> >>> 2.
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zm16QCxWEWNy4qW1KKoA3DmQBOLrTSPimXiqQkTxokc/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.f4ova073h88e
>>> >>>
>>>
>>

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