Hi Evans,

> Am 20.12.2017 um 13:01 schrieb Evans Ye <[email protected]>:
> 
> I am 100% up to go container. We need to embrace the changes and right now
> container seems to be a dominating solution.
> 
> Breaking down into a concrete plan, we got some choices:
> 
> 1. Leverage docker provisiner to provision cluster on swarm using compose

Docker provisioner AFAIK is like having virtual machines in docker: Installing 
more than one service/all services in one container.

Why not splitting different services into seperate containers in order to 
remove interdependencies between packages?


> 2. Develop docker based packaging solution
> 2a. Reuse our RPM/DEB packages to create docker images
2a: Yes, please.

> 2b. Develop a brand new packaging solution for docker and drop puppet deploy
> 
> I would favor 2a.
> 
> Any other thoughts?





> 
> 
> 
> Olaf Flebbe <[email protected]>於 2017年12月17日 週日,上午1:57寫道:
> 
>> Hi Jeff,
>> 
>> Regarding your comment on  *https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-2754
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-2754>*
>> 
>> Well, pretty ugly story.  The thread leading to reverting zookeeper is
>> here:
>> 
>> 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c2e9705ee7bdc8afb7b9e79683dda18b0079aec215079b608862c99b@%3Cdev.bigtop.apache.org%3E
>> 
>> Included you will find the unresolved Hadoop JIRA tickets
>> 
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-12928
>> 
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-13413
>> 
>> 
>> However, Jay flashed a proposal several times that we should "go
>> container". I am now ready to see this necessary.
>> 
>> I think the hadoop ecosystem should interoperate on stable network
>> protocols, not by sharing Java artifacts.
>> 
>> This would put the final nail in the coffin of the attempt harmonising
>> protocols by symlinking client and server packages in order to enforce same
>> versions of client and server. We would give up most of our inter-package
>> dependencies, every package get its own dependency packaged, pulled from
>> whatever the upstream project decided.
>> 
>> This may solve issues like the zookeeper / hadoop interdependency .
>> Supplying a zookeeper-3.11 server package would be not an issue any more.
>> Packages needing zookeeper client would use their zookeeper client to
>> access the server. And than think "Hadoop-3" as a further example.
>> 
>> For dependencies with native libraries this may lead to issues, which can
>> be solved IMHO.
>> 
>> I am now out of the position to control a reasonable large hadoop bigtop
>> infra, so I am not sure this path will lead to disaster area, since I
>> cannot test the long time stability any more.
>> 
>> Other Bigtoppers, please comment, since this will have pretty big impact .
>> 
>> I like to see traditional Bigtop bare metal -- no containers -- supported
>> as well. At least as a corner case.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Olaf
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 16.12.2017 um 02:54 schrieb Jeff Widman (JIRA) <[email protected]>:
>> 
>> 
>>   [
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-2754?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=16293553#comment-16293553
>> ]
>> 
>> Jeff Widman commented on BIGTOP-2754:
>> -------------------------------------
>> 
>> Is there a ticket in Hadoop tracking this?
>> 
>> Zookeeper 3.4.6-->3.4.9 have a couple of bugs affecting snapshot garbage
>> collection (ZOOKEEPER-1797 and ZOOKEEPER-2574), so we want to upgrade to
>> 3.4.11.
>> 
>> However, when I tried pulling that from Zookeeper repo, I noticed that it
>> pins Java 6 which breaks on Ubuntu 16.04:
>> https://github.com/apache/zookeeper/blob/release-3.4.6/src/packages/update-zookeeper-env.sh#L152
>> 
>> I looked at the Zookeeper master branch, and looks like Zookeeper decided
>> in ZOOKEEPER-1604 to delegate packaging to the Bigtop project. However,
>> when I came here, I was disappointed to see that the newest Zookeeper
>> version that Bigtop packages is 3.4.6....
>> 
>> For those of us who use Zookeeper apart from Hadoop but don't want to deal
>> with the headaches of packaging it'd be nice to figure out a way to get a
>> newer zookeeper package released. I'm happy to take a look at the Hadoop
>> project to see if they can upgrade to 3.4.11, but not sure where to find
>> their rationale for pinning to 3.4.6...
>> 
>> Revert BIGTOP-2730: Upgrade Zookeeper to version 3.4.10
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>>               Key: BIGTOP-2754
>>               URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-2754
>>           Project: Bigtop
>>        Issue Type: Bug
>>  Affects Versions: 1.2.0
>>          Reporter: Olaf Flebbe
>>          Assignee: Olaf Flebbe
>>           Fix For: 1.2.1, 1.3.0
>> 
>>       Attachments: BIGTOP-2754.patch
>> 
>> 
>> Since Hadoop enforces zookeeper-3.6 we will revert  BIGTOP-2730  in order
>> to wait for upstream to deal with this issue.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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