>> I’d like to propose BGTP as stack name(already used in Bigtop Ambari Mpack) >> with bgtp-select, > > It is a good time to get rid of useless abbreviation. > Why not BIGTOP?
BIGTOP with bigtop-select works for me too, but the mpack is using BGTP as stack name now. Best Regards, Zhiguo Wu > On Jul 7, 2022, at 10:59, Masatake Iwasaki <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I’d like to propose BGTP as stack name(already used in Bigtop Ambari Mpack) >> with bgtp-select, > > It is a good time to get rid of useless abbreviation. > Why not BIGTOP? > > On 2022/07/07 11:07, 吴治国 wrote: >>>> Sure, we can have module name like bigtop-distro-select. >>> >>> Do you mean that you're going to name the module (same as "component" >>> in the Bigtop terminology, I think) bigtop-distro-select, >>> and still the script in question bdp-select? If so, is there any >>> reason that the script must be that name? >>> (No offence, I just want to understand your thoughts and its >>> background, and avoid the conflict or user's confusion with existing >>> trademarks or products) >> I’d like to propose BGTP as stack name(already used in Bigtop Ambari Mpack) >> with bgtp-select, BDP(Bigtop Data Platform) with bdp-select or Bigtop with >> bigtop-select. >> BDP(Big Data Platform) with bigtop-distro-select confuse me. >> Best Regards, >> Zhiguo Wu >>> On Jul 7, 2022, at 08:37, Kengo Seki <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> The following concern Masatake mentioned before is an important point, >>> so I talked to Brahma for clarifying his intention on the ASF Slack >>> yesterday. >>> >>>> Multiple versions of the same package (deb/rpm) can not be installed at >>>> the same time. >>>> IIRC, HDP uses convention in which the product version is part of package >>>> name >>>> for addressing this. >>> >>>> I don't like to bring the awkward package name convention to Bigtop >>>> at least by default. >>> >>> He's planning to adopt the same mitigation as HDP for now, but he >>> doesn't intend to change the default package naming convention of >>> Bigtop, >>> but just add a new functionality to include an extra part into the >>> package name for avoiding conflict, which is disabled by default. >>> >>> And Brahma, let me confirm about the following reply: >>> >>>> Sure, we can have module name like bigtop-distro-select. >>> >>> Do you mean that you're going to name the module (same as "component" >>> in the Bigtop terminology, I think) bigtop-distro-select, >>> and still the script in question bdp-select? If so, is there any >>> reason that the script must be that name? >>> (No offence, I just want to understand your thoughts and its >>> background, and avoid the conflict or user's confusion with existing >>> trademarks or products) >>> >>> Kengo Seki <[email protected]> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 2:08 AM Battula, Brahma Reddy >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The name of stack based no Bigtop should be Bigtop. >>>>> If you can not accept the name like bigtop-*, the work should done >>>>> outside of Bigtop. >>>>> I will cast -1 if someone submit a patch to add a module with the name >>>>> spoiling branding. >>>> >>>> Sure, we can have module name like bigtop-distro-select. >>>> Initially we'll do this separate branch. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 06/07/22, 8:55 AM, "Masatake Iwasaki" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I believe it's for project name. isn't it.? >>>> >>>> projects and products. >>>> >>>>> IMO, We need to create folders and refer stacknames so >>>>> ambari-select,bigtop-select wn't looks good. >>>> >>>> The name of stack based no Bigtop should be Bigtop. >>>> If you can not accept the name like bigtop-*, the work should done >>>> outside of Bigtop. >>>> I will cast -1 if someone submit a patch to add a module with the name >>>> spoiling branding. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2022/07/06 11:44, Battula, Brahma Reddy wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I believe it's for project name. isn't it.? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 06/07/22, 7:27 AM, "Masatake Iwasaki" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> But As we are not releasing as enterprise should be fine I think. IMO, >>>>>> We need to create folders and refer stacknames so >>>>>> ambari-select,bigtop-select wn't looks good. >>>>> >>>>> Not fine. >>>>> We have a trademark policy. >>>>> >>>>> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.apache.org%2Ffoundation%2Fmarks%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cbbattula%40visa.com%7Cc35272ff938645e034f908da5eff1bcc%7C38305e12e15d4ee888b9c4db1c477d76%7C0%7C0%7C637926747017162847%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gDhqEuyGhsdvPKcxrA65I4G9BRD86Ai%2BoasW0ycTfng%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> >>>>> On 2022/07/06 10:37, Battula, Brahma Reddy wrote: >>>>>>> Should we avoid unrecognized brand which may be trademark of someone? >>>>>>> ambari-select or bigtop-select should be enough. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not sure, where to confirm whether there is already trademark. When I >>>>>> googled found so many. >>>>>> But As we are not releasing as enterprise should be fine I think. IMO, >>>>>> We need to create folders and refer stacknames so >>>>>> ambari-select,bigtop-select wn't looks good. >>>>>> May be you can refer the initial proposal [2] where I mentioned some >>>>>> more names. (BDS-BigDataStack,OSS-OpenSourceSelect..) >>>>>> >>>>>> Finally thanks a bunch for long healthy discussions on this. Mostly we >>>>>> all same page now. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. >>>>>> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dbdp%26safe%3Dactive%26sxsrf%3DALiCzsaQDcQS0gb8KbAMfjadXuG-jomxRQ%253A1657070844287%26ei%3D_OTEYsuWEYrD4-EPp4uKqAE%26ved%3D0ahUKEwjLhKr4jeP4AhWK4TgGHaeFAhUQ4dUDCA4%26uact%3D5%26oq%3Dbdp%26gs_lcp%3DCgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBAgjECcyBAgjECcyCggAELEDEIMBEEMyCwgAEIAEELEDEIMBMgsIABCABBCxAxCDATIRCC4QgAQQsQMQgwEQxwEQ0QMyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEOgcIABBHELADOgYIABAeEBY6CggAEB4QDxAWEAo6CggAEIAEEIcCEBQ6CwguEIAEEMcBEK8BOgcIABCABBAKOhYILhCABBCHAhCxAxCDARDHARDRAxAUSgQIQRgASgQIRhgAUKsHWNgRYLoWaAFwAXgAgAGoAYgBtAeSAQMwLjiYAQCgAQHIAQjAAQE%26sclient%3Dgws-wiz&data=05%7C01%7Cbbattula%40visa.com%7Cc35272ff938645e034f908da5eff1bcc%7C38305e12e15d4ee888b9c4db1c477d76%7C0%7C0%7C637926747017162847%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ZFYaWY1a45yniMuLQaZjKVQGt9kE5elMrLNh8Cm9HL4%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. >>>>>> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.apache.org%2Fthread%2Fm77lhzo0njr2dhoock5twtm0c19j2py8&data=05%7C01%7Cbbattula%40visa.com%7Cc35272ff938645e034f908da5eff1bcc%7C38305e12e15d4ee888b9c4db1c477d76%7C0%7C0%7C637926747017162847%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=3awZ5TFt9AyItE5CkLBLSANkjX4KIr%2FqCrdDirKEBew%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 06/07/22, 4:01 AM, "Masatake Iwasaki" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> We have still not officially finalized the new replacement name for >>>>>>> hdp-select, it would likely be bdp-select (bdp: BigData Platform). >>>>>>> However, >>>>>>> the purpose of bdp-select and conf-select remains the same. >>>>>> >>>>>> Should we avoid unrecognized brand which may be trademark of someone? >>>>>> ambari-select or bigtop-select should be enough. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2022/06/29 13:52, Viraj Jasani wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Ambari/Bigtop dev, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As per the new roadmap of Apache Ambari, we would like to propose moving >>>>>>> certain scripts (previously known as hdp-select and conf-select) to >>>>>>> Bigtop >>>>>>> so that their rpm installation could be managed independently. >>>>>>> These scripts are a basic necessity in the Ambari framework for the >>>>>>> installation of various Bigdata packages. The only major changes they >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> receive is when we onboard new services and components to Ambari, else >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> usually do not receive updates. In the past, we used to get hdp-select >>>>>>> rpm >>>>>>> downloaded and installed from HDP repositories. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have still not officially finalized the new replacement name for >>>>>>> hdp-select, it would likely be bdp-select (bdp: BigData Platform). >>>>>>> However, >>>>>>> the purpose of bdp-select and conf-select remains the same. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
