On 25 Jul 2013, at 17:18, James Wood <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hmm... the tooltip might be distracting. As for the other options, it's a
> case of new placeholder text vs. bottom-of-page tip + shortened
> placeholder. A possible new placeholder is "Search for or link to a page",
> which fits in an .input-large. We can add "(Guide/Links)" and still fit in
> an .input-xlarge. But is it clear enough on its own?

I don't think that would be very clear. "Link to a page" doesn't really make 
sense in a search context.

What Trac links are to be understood as in this context is a way to jump 
straight to content without having to see the search results.

Maybe we just don't need this at all, just all the placeholder 'Search 
anything'.

- Joe

> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Joachim Dreimann <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 25 July 2013 15:29, James Wood <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On this one, I noticed that the search box already has
>> placeholder="Search
>>> all products. Try TracLinks.", but it has been cut off due to the box not
>>> being wide enough. It could be wider (I don't see what's wrong with it
>>> going up to .input-xlarge), but I don't think it fits in a descriptive
>>> enough message. Also, I'm under the impression that we're removing
>>> references to Trac in the interface.
>> So what's your suggestion? Should we remove (part of) the placeholder text?
>> Could we use a tooltip[1] to display some help text instead when the search
>> input box is focussed?
>> 
>> - Joe
>> 
>> [1] http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/javascript.html#tooltips
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:58 AM, James Wood <[email protected]
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Apache Bloodhound <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> #232: Nudge users towards understanding search syntax
>>>>> --------------------------+---------------------
>>>>>  Reporter:  jdreimann    |      Owner:  nobody
>>>>>      Type:  enhancement  |     Status:  new
>>>>>  Priority:  trivial      |  Milestone:
>>>>> Component:  ui design    |    Version:
>>>>> Resolution:               |   Keywords:  starter
>>>>> --------------------------+---------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Comment (by mudri):
>>>>> 
>>>>> "TracLink" gets replaced automatically with "Guide/Link", which
>> doesn't
>>>>> read as well. I've instead decided to call them "Wiki links":
>>>>> {{{
>>>>> #!xml
>>>>> Index: bloodhound_theme/bhtheme/templates/bh_search.html
>>>>> ===================================================================
>>>>> --- bloodhound_theme/bhtheme/templates/bh_search.html   (revision
>>>>> 1505634)
>>>>> +++ bloodhound_theme/bhtheme/templates/bh_search.html   (working
>> copy)
>>>>> @@ -100,8 +100,11 @@
>>>>> 
>>>>>      <div id="help" class="help-block pull-right" i18n:msg="">
>>>>>        <span class="label label-info">Note:</span>
>>>>> -      See <a href="${href.wiki('TracSearch')}">TracSearch</a>
>>>>> -      for help on searching.
>>>>> +      See <a href="${href.wiki('Guide/Search')}">Guide/Search</a>
>>>>> +      for help on searching.<br />
>>>>> +      <span class="label label-info">Tip:</span>
>>>>> +      Enter a <a href="${href.wiki('Guide/Links')}">Wiki link</a>
>>>>> +      to jump directly to a page.
>>>>>      </div>
>>>>>      <br/>
>>>>> }}}
>>>>> {{{
>>>>> #!xml
>>>>> Index: bloodhound_search/bhsearch/templates/bhsearch.html
>>>>> ===================================================================
>>>>> --- bloodhound_search/bhsearch/templates/bhsearch.html  (revision
>>>>> 1505634)
>>>>> +++ bloodhound_search/bhsearch/templates/bhsearch.html  (working
>> copy)
>>>>> @@ -192,10 +192,14 @@
>>>>>        </div>
>>>>> 
>>>>>        <div id="help" class="help-block pull-right" i18n:msg="">
>>>>> -        <strong>Note:</strong> See <a
>>>>> href="${href.wiki('BloodhoundSearch')}">BloodhoundSearch</a>
>>>>> -        for help on searching.
>>>>> +        <span class="label label-info">Note:</span>
>>>>> +        See <a href="${href.wiki('Guide/Search')}">Guide/Search</a>
>>>>> +        for help on searching.<br />
>>>>> +        <span class="label label-info">Tip:</span>
>>>>> +        Enter a <a href="${href.wiki('Guide/Links')}">Wiki link</a>
>>>>> +        to jump directly to a page.
>>>>>        </div>
>>>>> 
>>>>>      </div>
>>>>>    </body>
>>>>> -</html>
>>>>> \ No newline at end of file
>>>>> +</html>
>>>>> }}}
>>>>> {{{
>>>>> #!css
>>>>> Index: bloodhound_theme/bhtheme/htdocs/bloodhound.css
>>>>> ===================================================================
>>>>> --- bloodhound_theme/bhtheme/htdocs/bloodhound.css      (revision
>>>>> 1505634)
>>>>> +++ bloodhound_theme/bhtheme/htdocs/bloodhound.css      (working
>> copy)
>>>>> @@ -1281,3 +1281,20 @@
>>>>>  input[type="radio"]:not(:checked) + label span {
>>>>>   text-decoration:underline;
>>>>>  }
>>>>> +
>>>>> +#help.pull-right {
>>>>> + text-align: right;
>>>>> +}
>>>>> }}}
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ticket URL: <
>> https://issues.apache.org/bloodhound/ticket/232#comment:4>
>>>>> Apache Bloodhound <https://issues.apache.org/bloodhound/>
>>>>> The Apache Bloodhound issue tracker
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Joachim Dreimann | *User Experience Manager*
>> 
>> WANdisco // *Non-Stop Data*
>> 
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>> 

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