> otherwise the write will timeout internally and it will get replayed to a
new bookie.
If Qa is met and the writes of Qw-Qa fail after we send the success to the
client, why would the write replayed on a new bookie?

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 1:47 PM Matteo Merli <mme...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 8:27 AM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Matteo,
> > in this comment you are talking about an issue you saw when WQ is
> greater that AQ
> > https://github.com/apache/bookkeeper/issues/2497#issuecomment-734423246
> >
> > IIUC you are saying that if one bookie is slow the client continues to
> accumulate references to the entries that still have not received the
> confirmation from it.
> > I think that this is correct.
> >
> > Have you seen problems in production related to this scenario ?
> > Can you tell more about them ?
>
> Yes, for simplicity, assume e=3, w=3, a=2.
>
> If one bookie is slow (not down, just slow), the BK client will the
> acks to the user that the entries are written after the first 2 acks.
> In the meantime, it will keep waiting for the 3rd bookie to respond.
> If the bookie responds within the timeout, the entries can now be
> dropped from memory, otherwise the write will timeout internally and
> it will get replayed to a new bookie.
>
> In both cases, the amount of memory used in the client will max at
> "throughput" * "timeout". This can be a large amount of memory and
> easily cause OOM errors.
>
> Part of the problem is that it cannot be solved from outside the BK
> client, since there's no visibility on what entries have 2 or 3 acks
> and therefore it's not possible to apply backpressure. Instead,
> there should be a backpressure mechanism in the BK client itself to
> prevent this kind of issue.
> One possibility there could be to use the same approach as described
> in
> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/wiki/PIP-74%3A-Pulsar-client-memory-limits
> ,
> giving a max memory limit per BK client instance and throttling
> everything after the quota is reached.
>
>
> Matteo
>


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