As the demoter :) & recognizing the unpopularity can I second Richard's suggestion -- of putting it as a collapsed row on the Summary page?

The reason for demoting is that in the normal course of operations, one typically want to know see status and control what something is doing. Thus sensors, effectors, and activities.

It is primarily advanced use cases (including debugging, and as Andrew points out, when there are machine-generated passwords) which require looking at config. I realize most of us are advanced so we like it, but for the *operators* we want to make the UI seem simpler.

But I think putting it as a collapsed tab in the summary page would make even more sense than putting it under Advanced. This way, at the summary you get a high-level view of the activity and if you wish, you get information on how it was created. (For things created from YAML, the YAML is shown on this tab also.) Config would fit neatly there -- and hopefully those of us who do need it often can find it there a little more easily than under advanced (with one click from the default Summary view, rather than two).

Needless to say if everyone still thinks this is a mad idea and it needs to be top-level it is easy to put back.

--A


On 16/09/2014 10:19, Richard Downer wrote:
Sorry I'm a bit late here!

Config is a pretty basic part of Brooklyn functionality - while it
perhaps does not need to be a top-level tab, I certainly would not
place it under "Advanced". Possibly a "show config" button on the
entity summary page? Or to be safe, just back where it was :-)

Richard.

On 11 September 2014 17:40, Sam Corbett <[email protected]> wrote:
I would also be happy to see the tab restored.

Sam


On 11/09/2014 12:00, Martin Harris wrote:
+1 to promoting it again

On 10 September 2014 21:00, Aled Sage <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,

The config tab has been moved in the brooklyn web-console. It is now a
section under the "advanced" tab.

Anyone have opinions on this?

---
This was done in https://github.com/apache/incubator-brooklyn/pull/156,
where there was some discussion. The reason from @ahgittin was:

     "config tab demoted because i and most people i've observed don't
     use it much except in debugging -- easy to promote if that's the
     wrong call"

---
I personally found it useful, both to see the config the blueprint has
set
and also for auto-generated config (e.g. the seed(s) of a Cassandra
cluster).

If we're not running out of space or looking too cluttered for tabs, then
I'd prefer to promote it again.

Aled

p.s. there have been past conversations about what (if any) is the real
difference between attributes and config; but that's a different
conversation.



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