Huya, On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 5:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen <tvanles...@gmail.com> wrote: > First, I got a Buildr talk accepted at ApacheCon EU in Sinsheim, Germany, > which I held just yesterday.
congrats! > I got a lot of positive feedback, people seem > to like the buildr idea although it also seems that Maven improved since > the inception of Buildr and some things are less worse. The most visible > argument against buildr was, however, that people are used to use Maven and > that, if they want to make their project accessible for a broad audience, > they think they'd need to stick to Maven. That does seem to be a common view. > I guess Gradle tries to address > this issue by providing a "gradle-wrapper", which is a small jar file along > a shell script that you can include into your project and that will > bootstrap a gradle installation automatically. I also figured, that still > many Java developers don't have rubies at hand and don't know how to easily > install a gem. And one stage, Antoine was working on the "all-in-one" distribution that essentially bundled a version of jruby with buildr and all it's dependencies in one easy installer. I wonder if we could work on this to ease adoption of buildr for the casual user. Where I work we use Chef (http://www.opscode.com/chef/) extensively and they release their tool in "omnibus" editions that are essentially a complete version of ruby for n-different platforms. They preinstall the chef gems in the ruby they distribute but they make sure that the only things that are added to the path are the che executables. I wonder if this would be a good thing for us to consider? > Second, I stumbled upon ThoughtWorks TechRadar [2]. In particular, I liked > the first paragraph of the Tools section ;) It is kinda neat. Possibly the best thing we can do is to increase awareness ... I think your approach to giving a talk is a good idea. -- Cheers, Peter Donald
