Thanks for your response, Zhu Feng, I totally agree with you.

The first thing we should consider with implicit type coercion is to make it 
pluggable. In the original PR[1],
I make implementation of different SqlNodes into separate methods, and we can 
inherent the TypeCoercion  interface to make some extension for different Sql 
Dialect.

But I agree with you, we should make the Sql Dialect somehow bindable with 
different TypeCoercion implementations. So user can customize their 
transformation behaviors based on the Sql Dialect they use.

[1] https://github.com/apache/calcite/pull/706

Best,
Danny Chan
在 2019年5月27日 +0800 PM12:51,Zhu Feng <wellfeng...@gmail.com>,写道:
> Hi Yuzhao:
> Thanks for raising this discussion. I think this feature is significant to
> Calcite.
> AFAIK, there is no standard on implicit type coercion. Even for those
> widely-adopted RDBMSs (ORACLE, SqlSever, and etc.), we can find some
> "unreasonable" corner cases that are not as user expected.
>
> There are too many factors. Take (1 > '1') as an example, is "casting one
> type to another type directly" (1 > cast('1' as int)) or "casting to common
> types" (cast('1' as double) > cast('1' as double)) more suitable?
> How about (1>'111111111111111111111111111111111')?
>
> From my point of view, we can make implicit type coercion as dialect
> interfaces, and provide SqlDialect-specific implementations. In recent
> years, our in-house platform has evolved many times from Oracle to Hive and
> Spark SQL.
> When migrating from one system to another, problems caused by implicit type
> coercion brought us much pain. Different runtime conversion beheviors lead
> to different results even for the same query.
>
> I think a pluggable or dialect-configurable design benefits not only
> Calcite itself but also the engines (Flink) that use Calcite.
>
> Best,
> DonnyZone
>
> Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com> 于2019年5月27日周一 上午11:34写道:
>
> > Thanks Danny for pushing this.
> >
> > Just like you said, different engines may use different strategies for
> > implicit type cast, so i
> > think making the whole mechanism pluggable would be a good idea.
> >
> > Best,
> > Kurt
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:08 AM Haisheng Yuan <h.y...@alibaba-inc.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Danny for bringing it up.
> > > This is a useful feature, we should push it forward.
> > >
> > > I went through the design doc, looks good in general.
> > > I will also spend some time on the pull request 706.
> > >
> > > Thanks ~
> > > Haisheng Yuan
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > 发件人:Yuzhao Chen<yuzhao....@gmail.com>
> > > 日 期:2019年05月27日 10:20:47
> > > 收件人:<dev@calcite.apache.org>
> > > 主 题:Support complete implicit type coercion (DISCUSSION)
> > >
> > > Hi, guys.
> > >
> > > The implicit type coercion is almost supported by every production
> > > RDBMS(MYSQL[1], ORACLE[2], SQLSERVER[3]), also some Hadoop data warehouse
> > > facilitates like HIVE.
> > >
> > > As a query optimization engine of many comutation engines(like Apache
> > > Flink) and some OLAP engines(like Apache Drill), Calcite would supply
> > > better compatibility for sql query for the underlying engines it adapter
> > > with with implicit type coercion. There are already some jira issues that
> > > are relative with this topic more or less:
> > >
> > > 1. CALCITE-2992: Enhance implicit conversions when generating hash join
> > > keys for an equiCondition
> > > 2. CALCITE-3002: Case statement fails with: SqlValidatorException: Cannot
> > > apply '=' to arguments of type '<INTEGER> = <BOOLEAN>'
> > > 3. CALCITE-1531: SqlValidatorException when boolean operators are used
> > > with NULL
> > > 4. CALCITE-3081: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-3081
> > > 5. CALCITE-2829: Use consistent types when processing ranges
> > >
> > > I have fired a issue CALCITE-2302 [4] about 1 year ago, with a design
> > > doc(sowehow rough).
> > >
> > > Maybe we should fire a new discussion here, and hope for your suggesions
> > :)
> > >
> > > [1] https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/type-conversion.html
> > > [2]
> > >
> > https://docs.oracle.com/cd/B12037_01/server.101/b10759/sql_elements002.htm
> > > [3]
> > >
> > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/t-sql/data-types/data-type-conversion-database-engine?view=sql-server-2017
> > > [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CALCITE-2302
> > > [5]
> > >
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g2RUnLXyp_LjUlO-wbblKuP5hqEu3a_2Mt2k4dh6RwU/edit#heading=h.77f83nidn37j
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Danny Chan
> > >
> > >
> >

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