I forget to mention:

camel-osgi,
camel-quickfix,
camel-activemq

I suppose that you will make modifications first with camel-core.

Charles Moulliard
Senior Enterprise Architect
Apache Camel Committer

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On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Charles Moulliard <cmoulli...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Guillaume,
>
> I have been confronted yesterday to the problem that you describe here
> (moving some components from camel 2.0 to 2.1-SNAPSHOT). I prefer to use
> version range as they assume also a certain level of compatibility within
> release. It means also that before to commit every new change, developers
> have top take care about versioning ;-)
>
> I propose to work on the following components as I use them in my platform
> :
> camel-bindy,
> camel-jms,
> camel-ognl,
> camel-stream,
> camel-quartz,
> camel-spring
>
> Can you provide an example that I can use to adapt components mentioned.
>
> When modifications will be done, I will test them within my project
>
> Regards,
>
> Charles Moulliard
> Senior Enterprise Architect
> Apache Camel Committer
>
> *****************************
> blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've spotted a few problems in the way the OSGi metadata for camel jars
>> are
>> computed.
>> This makes deploying two versions of camel in OSGi nearly impossible.
>> To fix, I plan to enhance the metadata in two ways:
>>
>> #1. bundles should not import the packages they export
>> Here's an example what happen when you do so:
>>   * install bundle A version vx that export foo.bar and import it
>>     the OSGi framework will decide that A export this package because no
>> other package is available
>>  * install the same bundle in version vy
>>     as some of the packages are already exported by the first version of
>> A,
>> the OSGi resolver may choose
>>     to have this bundle import the package in version vx (provided that
>> the
>> version constraints match)
>>     this means that this bundle will not use its own classes for all the
>> packages that are in common, leading
>>     to obvious problems
>> So not importing the package means that the OSGi framework will always use
>> the classes from inside the bundle.
>>
>> #2. always use version ranges
>>  * For non camel imports, I think the default should be to have a range
>> equal to [v,v+1) assuming backward compatibility is preserved on minor
>> releases.  So if one bundle has a dependency on foo.bar version 1.1, the
>> range will be [1.1,2) meaning the framework is allowed to choose any
>> package
>> with a version >= 1.1 but < 2.0
>>  * for camel imports, this is a bit trickier.  I think the default range
>> should be restricted to minor versions, i.e. [1.1,1.2)
>>
>> The problem here is to allow someone to update a camel component or core
>> without updating the whole camel jars, so we need some flexibility on this
>> range.  But usually, I don't think we really ensure full backward
>> compatibility between minor versions, so having [2.0,3) might not be a
>> good
>> idea.
>> Furthermore, this would mean that you can't really deploy two different
>> minor versions of camel in the same framework, which I think is desirable.
>>
>> Now, the tricky part is to make sure that we always use consistent
>> classes.
>> For example when camel-core discover a component, we don't really want
>> camel-core 1.4 discovering camel 2.0 components, as this would fail.   So
>> the discovery mechanism has to be enhanced to make sure we load compatible
>> classes.
>> In OSGi, this can be done by loading a class from the component bundle and
>> making sure it's the same as our.
>> For example:
>>    componentBundle.loadClass(org.apache.camel.Endpoint.class.getName()) ==
>> org.apache.camel.Endpoint.class
>> This way, the discovery mechanism will be retricted to components that are
>> actually wired to this camel-core bundle.
>>
>> So at the end we should be able to:
>>  * deploy multiple versions of camel, provided they have different minor
>> releases (ex: 1.4, 2.0, 2.1)
>>  * upgrade components / core with micro release (ex: camel-core 2.0,
>> camel-spring 2.0.2, camel-atom 2.0.1)
>> And everything should work nicely :-)
>>
>> I'll start updating the OSGi metadata, but any help would be welcome, as
>> there are tons of components here !
>> Also, any volunteer for upgrading and testing the discovery mechanism is
>> welcomed !
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Guillaume Nodet
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