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Kostyantyn Oliynyk commented on CAMEL-2398:
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I did. 

It is possible to assign startup order to route but DefaultCamelContext  will 
use it to start inputs, i.e. consumers but not the route services.
That is why this issue has name: "DefaultCamelContext starts ROUTE SERVICES out 
of order".
 
This is source code from org.apache.camel.impl.DefaultCamelContext:

This is how routeServices defined, line 139:
...
    private final Map<String, RouteService> routeServices = new HashMap<String, 
RouteService>();
...

This is how route service get started, from line 895: 
...
            // figure out the order in which the routes should be started
            for (RouteService routeService : routeServices.values()) {
                Boolean autoStart = 
routeService.getRouteDefinition().isAutoStartup();
                if (autoStart == null || autoStart) {
                    // defer starting inputs till later as we want to prepare 
the routes by starting
                    // all their processors and child services etc.
                    // then later we open the floods to Camel by starting the 
inputs
                    // what this does is to ensure Camel is more robust on 
starting routes as all routes
                    // will then be prepared in time before we start inputs 
which will consume messages to be routed
                    routeService.startInputs(false);
                    try {
See ---->        routeService.start();
                        // add the inputs from this route service to the list 
to start afterwards
                        // should be ordered according to the startup number
                        Integer startupOrder = 
routeService.getRouteDefinition().getStartupOrder();
                        if (startupOrder == null) {
                            // auto assign a default startup order
                            startupOrder = defaultRouteStartupOrder++;
                        }
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> DefaultCamelContext starts route services out of order 
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMEL-2398
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-2398
>             Project: Apache Camel
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: camel-core
>    Affects Versions: 2.1.0
>         Environment: Linux ubuntu 2.6.24-26-generic,  java  1.5.0_16, Esper 
> 3.3.0
>            Reporter: Kostyantyn Oliynyk
>
> org.apache.camel.impl.DefaultCamelContext uses HashMap to hold route services
> In start() method it uses routeServices.values() to list route services.
> It does not work for Esper.
> Camel-extra Esper demo example for Esper, 
> http://code.google.com/p/camel-extra/wiki/EsperDemo, creates 3 routes:
> 1: Route[[From[activemq:EventStreamQueue]] -> [To[esper://feed]]]
> 2: Route[[From[esper://feed?eql=insert into TicksPerSecond select feed, 
> count(*) as cnt from com.iona.ps.demos.MarketDataEvent.win:time_batch(1 sec) 
> group by feed]] -> [To[esper://feed]]]
> 3: Route[[From[esper://feed?eql=select feed, avg(cnt) from 
> TicksPerSecond.win:time(10 sec) group by feed + having cnt < avg(cnt) * 
> 0.75]] -> [To[esper://feed], 
> process[com.iona.ps.demos.myroutebuilde...@1274069]]]
>   
> 3-rd route depends on 2-nd route, it uses TicksPerSecond event type that gets 
> created in route 2.
> DefaultCamelContext starts 3-rd route before 2-nd route, as a result Esper 
> fails to resolve event type:
> com.espertech.esper.epl.expression.ExprValidationException: Failed to resolve 
> event type: Event type or class named 'TicksPerSecond' was not found
>       at 
> com.espertech.esper.epl.spec.FilterStreamSpecRaw.resolveType(FilterStreamSpecRaw.java:189)
>       at 
> com.espertech.esper.epl.spec.FilterStreamSpecRaw.compile(FilterStreamSpecRaw.java:99)
>       at 
> com.espertech.esper.core.StatementLifecycleSvcImpl.compile(StatementLifecycleSvcImpl.java:956)
>       at 
> com.espertech.esper.core.StatementLifecycleSvcImpl.createStopped(StatementLifecycleSvcImpl.java:195)
>         ... 
> As a workaround, it is possible to change startup order by assigning custom 
> ids to routes, so routeServices HashMap would return values in different 
> order.  
> Please, be advise that 3-rd route's From URI: "esper://feed?eql=select feed, 
> avg(cnt) from TicksPerSecond.win:time(10 sec) group by feed + having cnt < 
> avg(cnt) * 0.75" is modified,
> original From URI from svn:
> "esper://feed?eql=select feed, avg(cnt) as avgCnt, cnt as feedCnt from 
> TicksPerSecond.win:time(10 sec) group by feed + having cnt < avg(avgCnt) * 
> 0.75" 
> It was done to resolve Esper compiling issue with avgCnt and feedCnt and has 
> no impact on this reported Camel issue .  

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