Hi Hadrian is there any news from legal about the Apache Camel logo?
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks. I will do so. > Hadrian > > > On Mar 29, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Rob Davies wrote: > >> Hadrian, >> >> It would be great if you could get clarification from ASF legal on the use >> of the logo. >> >> thanks, >> >> rob >> On 29 Mar 2011, at 14:51, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: >> >>> Rob, I *always* wear an Apache hat on this list. And I don't appreciate >>> cheap innuendoes. Please feel free to point to any instance in the past >>> when it wasn't the case. Until then please choose your words carefully. >>> >>> The Camel project, or any project, or any organization cannot use a mark >>> that would create confusion, registered or not. Or so I was told by an >>> attorney friend who is not involved with ASF, but I should probably take it >>> with the ASF legal to confirm. I am not sure how aware you are of it, but >>> the ASF is putting more emphasis lately on enforcing the trademark policy. >>> Trademarks compliance should also be part of the quarterly report. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Hadrian >>> >>> >>> On Mar 29, 2011, at 2:06 AM, Rob Davies wrote: >>> >>>> Hadrian - are you wearing your Apache hat when asking that question ? >>>> >>>> Yes - these images are variations of the logo for the CamelOne event in >>>> May. You can compare the logo here: http://fusesource.com/camelone2011/. >>>> they have been done by a professional artist - so why not submit them for >>>> consideration ? >>>> >>>> From an Apache point of view you need to ask: >>>> >>>> 1. Are there any trademark, copyright issues over the use of the image? >>>> (the answer is no) >>>> 2. Would the community like to use them ? >>>> >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> On 28 Mar 2011, at 19:11, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: >>>> >>>>> Claus, >>>>> >>>>> Why did you submit a variation of a logo that is already used by your >>>>> employer for commercial purposes? >>>>> >>>>> Hadrian >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 25, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> I dislike the A,B and C proposals. >>>>>> Especially the first two A and B, looks much more like horses than >>>>>> camels. >>>>>> For me personally I think its important that the hump on the Camel is >>>>>> in the logo. >>>>>> >>>>>> So far I like the old logo the best. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Debbie from FuseSource marketing had some sketches draw for our >>>>>> CamelOne event by a professional sketch firm. >>>>>> She said she would like to donate logos to the community and pay for >>>>>> any changes we would like. >>>>>> >>>>>> She had sketched the following 3 camels. >>>>>> >>>>>> D: >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel01.jpg >>>>>> E: >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel02.jpg >>>>>> F: >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/Camel04.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe any of those or the cartoonish style it impose could be usable. >>>>>> The Apache Camel text logo should of course be added. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Camel Riders, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With camel-2.7.0 out of the way I believe it's time to continue the >>>>>>> improvements of the camel site design [1]. >>>>>>> I will start a separate thread for documentation/manual and keep this >>>>>>> thread for the logo and css. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have already a few contributions and I don't think other >>>>>>> contributors will step up with new proposals, so I'd propose choosing >>>>>>> from what we have, which are of great quality already. So before we go >>>>>>> to a poll or vote I would highly appreciate your input on what logo >>>>>>> would be best for the camel project. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have a few proposals so far: >>>>>>> A. >>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000 >>>>>>> B. >>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/camelcomic2.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1291144284000 >>>>>>> C. >>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/24186045/dvichot-camel-logo.jpg?version=1&modificationDate=1296745441000 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Since there are a few versions in each of the attachments above please >>>>>>> specify your preference as combination of letter and number (in the >>>>>>> last one they are not numbered, so let's use 1-3 left to right on the >>>>>>> top row and 4 for the one on the bottom row). If it matters my >>>>>>> favorites are C3 and C1, in that order. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you believe something can be improved, like color, font (style, size >>>>>>> and placement), please feel free to add your suggestion. I believe the >>>>>>> original authors (or somebody) will be able to make the improvements. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Hadrian >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Site+Update+Ideas >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Claus Ibsen >>>>>> ----------------- >>>>>> FuseSource >>>>>> Email: cib...@fusesource.com >>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com >>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus >>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/ >>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/ >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > -- Claus Ibsen ----------------- FuseSource Email: cib...@fusesource.com Web: http://fusesource.com Twitter: davsclaus, fusenews Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/ Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/
