On Monday, December 26, 2011 9:48:44 PM Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> Wouldn't it be easier to fix the imported version ranges of camel-soap
> instead ? If we think we should be able to deploy it on a plain JRE, we
> should import jaxb with no version range.
> I think that should be the case for most of the JRE provided packages.
> 
> Also, I had done some experiments in deploying modified versions of
> the servicemix specs in the endorsed folder, and those specs are able
> to use the JRE implementation if none is provided, or implementations
> deployed as bundles.  I need to experimenent a bit more on that, but
> the results were very promising.  That would also mean that the
> exported package version is the default, so supporting 0.0 is a good
> thing imho.

If we are putting them in the endorsed folder, we know EXACTLY what the 
version is on them, right?  Thus, we could then update the jre.properties to 
put a proper version number on them, couldn't we?  I'd much rather see real 
version numbers one the exported stuff than 0.0 if at all possible.


Dan



> 
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 20:59, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> > Hi Guillaume,
> > 
> > first of all, merry Christmas to you and your family ;)
> > 
> > Let me try to explain the current situation.
> > 
> > In Camel, we have several features which depend on ServiceMix JAX-WS
> > Spec
> > (for instance, camel-soap).
> > The ServiceMix Specs explicitly define an import package like:
> > 
> > javax.xml.bind;version="2.2.0"
> > 
> > The jre package exports javax.xml.bind;version=0.0.0 by default.
> > 
> > So it means that these features are not installable out of the box. The
> > users have to:
> > - solution 1: install manually the xml-spec-api feature or the JAXB
> > bundles - solution 2: tweak the jre.properties to export the packages
> > with the 2.2.0 version
> > 
> > To summarize, it means that these features are not installable out of
> > the
> > box, which is a change comparing to Camel 2.8.x.
> > 
> > Regards
> > JB
> > 
> > On 12/26/2011 08:09 PM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> >> Do you have pointers to the problems ? All those packages are provided
> >> by the JRE so they should not have to be installed imho.
> >> Anyway, I'm in vacation until january so feel free to revert the xml
> >> definition, i doubt i won't be able to do that this week.
> >> 
> >> On Monday, December 26, 2011, Daniel Kulp<dk...@apache.org>  wrote:
> >>> The discussions around the entire xml-specs/jaxb/etc... stuff in the
> >> 
> >> features
> >> 
> >>> file has shown that this commit has caused a lot more problems than
> >>> it's actually solving.   Thus, I'm officially putting a -1 on this
> >>> commit as>> 
> >> it's
> >> 
> >>> causing breakages in other components,  causes cast exceptions and
> >>> other issues at runtime, etc....
> >>> 
> >>> In the future when Karaf can provide better solutions for this
> >>> issue, we>> 
> >> can
> >> 
> >>> can resolve this.  But at this point, we need to stay with the same
> >> 
> >> solutions
> >> 
> >>> that users are expecting and that have worked fine on the 2.8.x and
> >> 
> >> earlier
> >> 
> >>> versions of Camel.
> >>> 
> >>> In anycase, this needs to be reverted and CAMEL-4671 re-opened until
> >>> a
> >> 
> >> better
> >> 
> >>> solution can be found.
> >>> 
> >>> Dan
> >>> 
> >>> On Monday, November 14, 2011 4:01:24 PM gno...@apache.org wrote:
> >>>> Author: gnodet
> >>>> Date: Mon Nov 14 16:01:24 2011
> >>>> New Revision: 1201768
> >>>> 
> >>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1201768&view=rev
> >>>> Log:
> >>>> [CAMEL-4671] The camel-core feature should not reference jaxb2 api
> >>>> /
> >>>> impl
> >>>> 
> >>>> Modified:
> >>>>    
> >>>> camel/trunk/platforms/karaf/features/src/main/resources/features.
> >>>> xml
> >>>> 
> >>>> Modified:
> >>>> camel/trunk/platforms/karaf/features/src/main/resources/features.x
> >>>> ml
> >> 
> >>>> URL:
> >> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/camel/trunk/platforms/karaf/features/src/
> >> main/>> 
> >>>> resources/features.xml?rev=1201768&r1=1201767&r2=1201768&view=diff
> >> 
> >> ======================================================================
> >> =====>> 
> >>>> === ---
> >> 
> >> camel/trunk/platforms/karaf/features/src/main/resources/features.xml
> >> 
> >>>> (original) +++
> >>>> camel/trunk/platforms/karaf/features/src/main/resources/features.x
> >>>> ml Mon Nov 14 16:01:24 2011 @@ -25,13 +25,9 @@
> >>>>    </feature>
> >>>>    <feature name='camel-core' version='${pom.version}'
> >>>> resolver='(obr)' start-level='50'>  <feature
> >>>> version="[3,4)">spring</feature>
> >>>> -<bundle
> >> 
> >> dependency="true">mvn:org.apache.servicemix.specs/org.apache.servicemi
> >> x.spe>> 
> >>>> cs.activation-api-1.1/${servicemix-specs-version}</bundle>
> >>>>  -<bundle
> >> 
> >> dependency="true">mvn:org.apache.servicemix.specs/org.apache.servicemi
> >> x.spe>> 
> >>>> cs.jaxb-api-2.2/${servicemix-specs-version}</bundle>  -<bundle
> >> 
> >> dependency="true">mvn:org.apache.servicemix.specs/org.apache.servicemi
> >> x.spe>> 
> >>>> cs.stax-api-1.0/${servicemix-specs-version}</bundle>  -
> >> 
> >> <bundle>mvn:org.apache.servicemix.bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundle
> >> s.jax>> 
> >>>> b-impl/${jaxb-bundle-version}</bundle>
> >>>> <bundle>mvn:org.apache.camel/camel-core/${pom.version}</bundle>
> >> 
> >> <bundle>mvn:org.apache.camel.karaf/camel-karaf-commands/${pom.version}
> >> </bun>> 
> >>>> dle>  -</feature>
> >>>> +§</feature>
> >>>>    <feature name='camel-spring' version='${pom.version}'
> >>>> resolver='(obr)'
> >>>> start-level='50'>  <bundle
> >> 
> >> dependency="true">mvn:org.apache.geronimo.specs/geronimo-jta_1.1_spec/
> >> ${ger>> 
> >>>> onimo-jta-spec-version}</bundle>  <feature
> >> 
> >> version="[3,4)">spring</feature>
> >> 
> >>> --
> >>> Daniel Kulp
> >>> dk...@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
> >>> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
> > 
> > --
> > Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> > jbono...@apache.org
> > http://blog.nanthrax.net
> > Talend - http://www.talend.com
-- 
Daniel Kulp
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