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On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Scott England-Sullivan
<sully6...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That would be great!
>
> I created improvement https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-5743
> to track the patch and comments.  Upload your patch there and I will
> give it a review.
>
> One comment:  The support of Spring DM in camel-spring needs to be
> maintained for backwards compatibility.  I think that is possible to
> make it optional and we may even be able to include it in the same
> package.  Lets take a look at what changes are necessary to get it
> running first and then see what needs to be done to make the two APIs
> optional/plug-able.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Benjamin Graf <benjamin.g...@gmx.net> wrote:
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> well that's the reason why I suggest to remove OSGi support from the
>> camel-spring component and move it to a new camel-blueprint-gemini
>> component. I have given this a try and it works. Just five minutes coding.
>> :-) Putting it into camel-blueprint itself can also be useful to think about
>> but I think that this can be quite harder to realize. It not blueprint only
>> it's a hybrid. If you would like that code I'll send you a patch.
>>
>> Benjamin
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott England-Sullivan <sully6...@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>>
>>> Hi Benjamin,
>>>
>>> Sorry but I am very behind with things right now.
>>>
>>> I reviewed the Gemini Blueprint documentation and I can see where the
>>> confusion is coming from.  Gemini Blueprint is an extension of the
>>> OSGi Blueprint Spec that adds all sorts of Spring stuff and so on that
>>> might make it appear to be more at home in the Camel Spring Component
>>> than in the Camel Blueprint Component where I believe others have
>>> expected it to land.
>>>
>>> If you have suggestions on what can be done to help shed some light,
>>> or better yet, a patch, please feel free to share.  We love
>>> contributions as always.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Scott ES
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Benjamin Graf <benjamin.g...@gmx.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>
>>>> any new decision to this topic? If help is needed I can paste you a
>>>> proposal how
>>>> to handle this from my point of view. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> Benjamin
>>>>
>>>> On 15.10.2012 14:36, Scott England-Sullivan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry Benjamin. I will have to do some further research. Thanks for the
>>>>> clarification.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Scott ES
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 15, 2012, at 7:20 AM, "Benjamin Graf" <benjamin.g...@gmx.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> some last comments from me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Benjamin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Datum: Sun,
>>>>>>> 14 Oct 2012 16:52:05 -0500
>>>>>>> Von: Scott England-Sullivan <sully6...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> An: dev@camel.apache.org
>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: Dependencies of camel-spring
>>>>>>> In summary and to close out:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Post to Camel User
>>>>>>> Please use the Camel User mailing list for usage questions and issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * JBoss Issue:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Within JBoss you willhave better success using the JBoss Snowdrop
>>>>>>> project.  There are a number of threads that discuss using it on the
>>>>>>> forums and on google.  Details can be found here:
>>>>>>> https://www.jboss.org/snowdrop
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No option if you want proper lifecycle an dependency management. Like
>>>>>> OSGi or JBI in older days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Gemini Blueprint:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Spring DM != Gemini Blueprint
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gemini Blueprint = Spring DM v2 + x
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gemini Blueprint != Spring
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gemini Blueprint = Spring + x
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a loose relationship there but they really are two different
>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not right at all. Gemini does completly depend on the Springframework
>>>>>> API
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What you are looking for is support for the OSGi Blueprint provider
>>>>>>> Eclipse Gemini in Camel.  Blueprint support is currently included in
>>>>>>> the camel-blueprint project. The camel-blueprint project currently
>>>>>>> only offers support for Aries Blueprint.  What is required is Eclipse
>>>>>>> Gemini support by either inclusion in the camel-blueprint project or
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> completely new project camel-blueprint-gemini.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Upgrading to camel-spring Eclipse Gemini isn't an option because it is
>>>>>>> the home Spring DM which is fully dependent on the Spring APIs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My first preference would be for the camel-blueprint project to be
>>>>>>> able to support any underlying OSGi Blueprint provider over having a
>>>>>>> secondary project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is already some work happening WRT to your request under
>>>>>>> CAMEL-4543.  If you have a patch that would provide the underlying
>>>>>>> support for Eclipse Gemini please attach it there.  If not, add
>>>>>>> yourself as a watcher to the ticket to be updated of any progress.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-4543
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As mentioned before Spring OSGi (Spring DM) and Eclipse Gemini both
>>>>>> react to the same namespaces in XML config files. That's why you won't be
>>>>>> able to use camel-spring and any gemini
>>>>>> blueprint camel component together since you will have to install two
>>>>>> OSGi handlers to fulfill dependencies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>> Scott ES
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Benjamin Graf <benjamin.g...@gmx.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By the way. Any more comments on the root topic? ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scott England-Sullivan <sully6...@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Will post back here with results later on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Willem jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just checked karaf 2.3.0 which is on vote now is using Aries
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> blueprint 1.0.0 now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you want to do some verification, you could use that one.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>>>>>>>>>> Web: http://www.fusesource.com | http://www.redhat.com
>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (http://willemjiang.blogspot.com/) (English)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://jnn.javaeye.com (http://jnn.javaeye.com/) (Chinese)
>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>>>>>>>> Weibo: willemjiang
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, October 12, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Willem jiang wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I think we could consider to upgrade the camel-blueprint to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Aries 1.0.0 in Camel 2.11.0.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>>>>>>>>>>> Web: http://www.fusesource.com | http://www.redhat.com
>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (http://willemjiang.blogspot.com/) (English)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://jnn.javaeye.com (http://jnn.javaeye.com/) (Chinese)
>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>>>>>>>>> Weibo: willemjiang
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 11, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Scott England-Sullivan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Willem,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Following this I was about to ask when it would make sense
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> upgrading camel-blueprint to Aries 1.0.0.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My concern is I believe Aries 1.0.0 breaks backwards capability
>>>>>>>>>>>> (I
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> will verify). Therefore is it something that we can upgrade for
>>>>>>>>> Camel
>>>>>>>>> 2.x or does it need to go on the roadmap for Camel 3.0?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott ES
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 11, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Willem jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:willem.ji...@gmail.com)> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI, Aries Blueprint 1.0 was released.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: http://www.fusesource.com | http://www.redhat.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (http://willemjiang.blogspot.com/) (English)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://jnn.javaeye.com (http://jnn.javaeye.com/)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Chinese)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Weibo: willemjiang
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 11, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Benjamin Graf wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Willem,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camel-blueprint is no option for me since it uses Aries
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blueprint
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> which does not work correctly with jndi in boss OSGi. That is the
>>>>>>>>> reason why I switched back to spring recognizing that it's outdated.
>>>>>>>>> Anyway the fact that Aries does not yet reached a 1.0 release makes
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> not well suited for a commercial application in my opinion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Benjamin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Willem jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:willem.ji...@gmail.com)> schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camel-blueprint is suppose to do the OSGi related work this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You may consider to use it to get ride of the dependencies of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camel-spring.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Willem Jiang
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: http://www.fusesource.com | http://www.redhat.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (http://willemjiang.blogspot.com/) (English)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://jnn.javaeye.com (http://jnn.javaeye.com/) (Chinese)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Weibo: willemjiang
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 11, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Benjamin Graf wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue is that Gemini has a different packaging and camel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> spring
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a dependency which tries to load classes from spring OSGi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> activator in manifest is triggered. Unfortunately it is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replacement. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would suggest to update dependency in spring module or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remove
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OSGi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code to a new camel spring OSGi module and introduce a new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gemini
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blueprint module.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Benjamin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Christian Müller" <christian.muel...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:christian.muel...@gmail.com)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mailto:christian.muel...@gmail.com)> schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I understood you right, gemini-blueprint is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replacement
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spring-dm. In this case, there is no need that both live
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> together.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this case, I don't understand what the issue is?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Benjamin Graf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <benjamin.g...@gmx.net (mailto:benjamin.g...@gmx.net)>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried to implement a new camel component for
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> gemini-blueprint.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that both components spring-osgi and gemini-blueprint can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together in camel. Since camel-spring needs spring-osgi if
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> osgi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment. A replacement should really be considered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Benjamin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Datum: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:19:36 +0200
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: "Benjamin Graf" <benjamin.g...@gmx.net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:benjamin.g...@gmx.net)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mailto:benjamin.g...@gmx.net)>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: dev@camel.apache.org (mailto:dev@camel.apache.org)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: Dependencies of camel-spring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I give it a try it's two changed imports and one dependeny
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in pom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of camel-spring and everything works fine:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> import
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.gemini.blueprint.context.BundleContextAware;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> apache-camel-2.10.0\components\camel-spring\src\main\java\org\apache\camel\osgi\CamelContextFactoryBean.java
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> apache-camel-2.10.0\components\camel-spring\src\main\java\org\apache\camel\osgi\CamelNamespaceHandler.java
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dependency>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <groupId>org.eclipse.gemini.blueprint</groupId>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <artifactId>gemini-blueprint-core</artifactId>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <version>1.0.2.RELEASE</version>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <optional>true</optional>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <exclusions>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <exclusion>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> artifactId>org.springframework.aop</artifactId>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /exclusion>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <exclusion>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> artifactId>org.springframework.beans</artifactId>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /exclusion>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <exclusion>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> artifactId>org.springframework.context</artifactId>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /exclusion>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <exclusion>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <groupId>org.springframework</groupId>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> artifactId>org.springframework.core</artifactId>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /exclusion>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </exclusions>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </dependency>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache-camel-2.10.0\components\camel-spring\pom.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion it worth changing it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Datum: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:03:50 +0200
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (mailto:claus.ib...@gmail.com)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (mailto:claus.ib...@gmail.com)>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: dev@camel.apache.org (mailto:dev@camel.apache.org)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: Dependencies of camel-spring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Benjamin Graf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> benjamin.g...@gmx.net (mailto:benjamin.g...@gmx.net)>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does anybody knows why camel-spring still depends on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spring-osgi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundle is gemini-blueprint since 2009 and won't be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> developed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact forces to use an old unsupported bundle if you like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and OSGi. :-( I think it should change whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to create a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camel-gemini-bluepint component.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We love contributions, so you are welcome to work on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camel-gemini-blueprint component.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be a matter of doing something similar as we do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camel-blueprint (aries) which builds on top of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camel-core-osgi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> camel-core-xml.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would need to implement a namespace handler, and the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> factory
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beans,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and i guess some other osgi quirks to get it integrated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Benjamin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email: cib...@redhat.com (mailto:cib...@redhat.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mail
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gesendet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mail gesendet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> gesendet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Scott England-Sullivan
>>>>>>> Apache Camel Committer
>>>>>>> Principal Consultant / Sr. Architect | Red Hat, Inc.
>>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>>>>>>> Web:     fusesource.com | redhat.com
>>>>>>> Blog:     sully6768.blogspot.com
>>>>>>> Twitter: sully6768
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Scott England-Sullivan
>>> Apache Camel Committer
>>> Principal Consultant / Sr. Architect | Red Hat, Inc.
>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
>>> Web:     fusesource.com | redhat.com
>>> Blog:     sully6768.blogspot.com
>>> Twitter: sully6768
>>
>>
>> --
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>
>
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> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
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