Hi

Thanks the health mbean looks good.

However I wonder if using a date is the right type for "interval"
https://github.com/lburgazzoli/apache-camel/blob/CAMEL-10026-hc/camel-core/src/main/java/org/apache/camel/api/management/mbean/CamelOpenMBeanTypes.java#L251

Is interval a specific date, eg 2017-1-1 12:59:55 or is it not a
number like 2000 for every 2000 milli seconds?


On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Claus,
> the branch is still [1] and the management parts is in api/management [2].
>
> [1] https://github.com/lburgazzoli/apache-camel/tree/CAMEL-10026-hc
> [2] 
> https://github.com/lburgazzoli/apache-camel/tree/CAMEL-10026-hc/camel-core/src/main/java/org/apache/camel/api/management
>
> ---
> Luca Burgazzoli
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I've added some info through JMX, would you mind review it before merging ?
>>>
>>
>> Can you post the link to the branch where those latest code changes are
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Luca
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Luca Burgazzoli
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 4:20 PM, Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I've just pushed some bits to my fork to cleanup the implementation
>>>> and implement some basic checks for routes status. In addition, to
>>>> make it suitable to be included in camel 2.20, I've reduced the scope
>>>> of the implementation to be almost limited to core/internal health
>>>> checks and to provide a good foundation for people to write their own
>>>> advanced checks if needed (component checks such as those for undertow
>>>> and servicenow has been removed).
>>>>
>>>> Any feedback is really appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Luca Burgazzoli
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Luca Burgazzoli
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Luca
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks really good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a few typo's and the likes in the source code I looked at.
>>>>>> Will try to do a github comment so you can see them as well later, or
>>>>>> when the code is merged later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1)
>>>>>> For the doCall implementation when you implement a health check, then
>>>>>> what would happen if that methods throws an runtime exception? I think
>>>>>> we need to clarify on the javadoc what the contract is, and if an
>>>>>> exception would then render the check to be status = DOWN or what?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd expect the implementation to wrap it and decide if the service is
>>>>> healthy or not so yeah, I'll make it clear.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2)
>>>>>> I think the spring boot auto configuration prefixes for the health
>>>>>> checks for the components such as undertow, servicenow etc should all
>>>>>> be under the same prefix as the component itself, eg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> eg
>>>>>> camel.undertow.health.checks[spring-health].interval = 5s
>>>>>>
>>>>>> should be
>>>>>> camel.component.undertow.health.checks[spring-health].interval = 5s
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then everything you can configure in the undertow component is with
>>>>>> the same prefix and its consistent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Agree.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3)
>>>>>> To implement a custom health check and have spring boot auto
>>>>>> configuration, then you would have to write that configuration code
>>>>>> yourself / manually?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At the moment yes as the layout is not defined but it may be
>>>>> eventually auto generated like the starters.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4)
>>>>>> I wonder in the servicenow health check where you configure the
>>>>>> instance id, username etc again, whether you may want to be able to
>>>>>> just refer to the existing configuration so you do not repeat
>>>>>> yourself?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/lburgazzoli/apache-camel/blob/CAMEL-10026-hc/examples/camel-example-spring-boot-health-checks/application/src/main/resources/application.properties#L66
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, that was an example non properly cleaned up/explained but by
>>>>> default the servicenow reuse component's configuration.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5)
>>>>>> In this example it is a bit confusing that the comment say the health
>>>>>> check is enabled and then the value below is false
>>>>>> https://github.com/lburgazzoli/apache-camel/blob/CAMEL-10026-hc/examples/camel-example-spring-boot-health-checks/application/src/main/resources/application.properties#L36
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6)
>>>>>> ... and as well there is 2 indicator.enabled in that example.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, it definitively need to be cleaned up.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Luca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will take a closer look tomorrow, I just peaked a bit today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just to be sure, the implementation of the logic that performs the
>>>>>>> actual health check is agnostic? i.e. its not tied to must be using
>>>>>>> Spring Boot. And that logic is if possible reusing the "ping check"
>>>>>>> (i.e. verifier extension).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So the spring boot health check is currently for making it easier for
>>>>>>> end users to configure it via spring boot configuration?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Luca Burgazzoli <lburgazz...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've been working a little on the Health Check API [1] implementation 
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> the code is available in my Apache Camel fork [2]. There is now a a new
>>>>>>>> package [3] that defines the following concepts:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - HealthCheck
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   this represent an health check and defines the some basic contract 
>>>>>>>> i.e
>>>>>>>>   the response;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - HealthCheckConfiguration
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   this is a basic coonfiguration object that holds some basic settings
>>>>>>>>   like the minimum delay between calls, the number of time a service 
>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>   be reported as unhealthy before meking the check as failed; beside
>>>>>>>>   those simple options, is then responsability of the check impl. to
>>>>>>>>   eventually implement further limitations;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - HealthCheckRegistry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   this is just a registry, it doesn't have any method to trigger checks
>>>>>>>>   and it has intentionally been kept simple as in the future it may be
>>>>>>>>   superseeded by an internal camel registry [4];
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - HealthCheckRepository
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   this is a simple interface to define health check providers and by
>>>>>>>>   default there is one that grabs all the checks available in the
>>>>>>>>   registry so you can add your own check i.e. istantiating your bean
>>>>>>>>   in spring/spring-boot; components can provide theirs own repository.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - HealthCheckService
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   this is a simple service that runs in the background and invokes the
>>>>>>>>   checks according to a schedule.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The default camel context sets-up a default implementation of the 
>>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>>> check registry which you can override by putting your own 
>>>>>>>> implementation
>>>>>>>> in the camel registry as usual. Check are not active by default so you
>>>>>>>> need to explicit enable/configure them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The current implementation has a number of limitations:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - it is spring-boot oriented for demostration purpose so you can't
>>>>>>>>   access health checks using JMX (but it is planned);
>>>>>>>> - it is focused on monitoring the status of external systems so there
>>>>>>>>   are a few implementations based on the Component verifier extension:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   1. a ServiceNow instance check to report if an instances is alive
>>>>>>>>   2. a simple undertow based http check that issue an http get to an
>>>>>>>>      http endpoint
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   There is also a simple consul repository that let you to reuse consul
>>>>>>>>   checks [5] so i.e. you can have a single check to monitor the status
>>>>>>>>   of twitter and reuse it in all your microservices.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   An example can be found in my fork [6]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My next goals are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. define some core checks to monitor the health of the camel context
>>>>>>>>    i.e. fail if there is an excessive number of errors, if the latency
>>>>>>>>    is too high, etc.
>>>>>>>> 2. expose check through JMX.
>>>>>>>> 3. use health checks for ServiceCall EIP
>>>>>>>> 4. use health checks in Clustering/Superving route controller
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any feedback is very welcome,
>>>>>>>> Luca
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-10026
>>>>>>>> [2] https://github.com/lburgazzoli/apache-camel/tree/CAMEL-10026-hc
>>>>>>>> [3] 
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/lburgazzoli/apache-camel/tree/CAMEL-10026-hc/camel-core/src/main/java/org/apache/camel/health
>>>>>>>> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAMEL-10792
>>>>>>>> [5] https://www.consul.io/docs/agent/checks.html
>>>>>>>> [6] 
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/lburgazzoli/apache-camel/tree/CAMEL-10026-hc/examples/camel-example-spring-boot-health-checks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> Luca Burgazzoli
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
>>>>>>> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
>>>>>> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Claus Ibsen
>> -----------------
>> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
>> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2



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