Great work, thanks for contributing!

For now I'd keep it as it is, so we can experiment with the parallel runner
on GH. We have a few more things happening on the Jenkins pipeline and it
would be better to keep it as stable as possible for now.

Kind regards

On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 5:43 PM Nicolas Filotto <nfilo...@talend.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just wanted to let you know that with Otavio, we finally could make the
> Github's runner uses the maven daemon (with 2 threads) as you may have
> seen. It seems to help a little bit since the validation of a PR now takes
> between 45-48 minutes while it used to take more than an hour. I know that
> it is not revolutionary, but I'm afraid that with 2 cores on the runner, it
> will be hard to do much better.
>
> Would it make sense to do the same on the Jenkins' runner?
>
> Regards,
> Nicolas
>
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> Hi Guillaume,
>
> That's awsome, no I didn't know that option, thanks for sharing, it will
> definitively help.
>
> Actually even the maven daemon as it is now (wondeful job by the way)
> could help.
> Indeed, on my machine even with 2 threads, the command "mvnd clean install
> -Pfastinstall -Psourcecheck -T 2" takes 32 minutes while the equivalent
> with maven takes 48 minutes.
>
> I know that we cannot predict the results on the build pipeline based on
> this but at least it sounds like it could be interesting to try it, don't
> you agree?
>
> Regards,
> Nicolas
>
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> Fwiw, i did a lot of work on the build a while ago, but my main goal was to
> optimize subsequent  `mvnd -DskipTests` run.
> Ideall, in such cases, no jars should be changed at all, but that's not the
> case completely, especially for maven plugins (try running `ls -ltr
> **/*.jar` after a build). There are pending changes in maven to fix that
> and I plan to push some changes in camel (mostly plugins updates) once
> those are released.
>
> In case you don't know the option, you can use the `mvnd -Dmvnd.buildTime`
> option to gather statistics on the mojo execution time.
>
> In addition, I've been working a few weeks ago on the
> maven-build-cache-extension [1], which is a powerful extension that
> provides a full per-module build cache.  The cache can be configured
> locally and remotely (where the output of a module will be downloaded from
> the remote cache instead of being built locally).  It currently requires
> some changes in maven-core that will only be released in maven 3.9.0.
> However, I can try to set up an experimental mvnd branch that would embed
> this extension if that's of any interest.
>
> Guillaume
>
> [1]
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/apache/maven-build-cache-extension__;!!CiXD_PY!HCRQGPM2NNJHbYh_rZneQbVDhQ9sp14RTKOq3aj88pSnBMTttsExKdehHmiEG7g$
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> Le jeu. 10 févr. 2022 à 09:25, Otavio Rodolfo Piske <angusyo...@gmail.com>
> a écrit :
>
> > Thanks for looking into this.
> >
> > On a related note, I think one area where we could investigate potential
> > improvements to the compilation is by looking at the performance of our
> > maven plugins and code generators.
> >
> > For example the camel-endpointdsl module takes a long time to generate
> > sources and build (that one takes almost 2 minutes to run on GH). The
> > camel-componentdsl one takes about 1 minute. I suspect that if we could
> > trace why they are so slow, there may be a route for optimizing the build
> > time (and if we are lucky, that could happen across the whole build).
> >
> > A secondary branch of investigation could be looking at whether we can
> > adjust our build so that we can have it running with "process-classes"
> > target, to avoid the costly process of compressing and installing the
> jars.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 2:41 PM Nicolas Filotto <nfilo...@talend.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi again,
> > >
> > > Just to let you know that it appears that there are only 2 cores on the
> > > target server which is obviously not enough to have an impact on the
> > build
> > > time.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Nicolas
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Nicolas Filotto <nfilo...@talend.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 11:33
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> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for your feedbacks. Here is the related PR
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/apache/camel/pull/6907__;!!CiXD_PY!C-yfZjEVUOAkwpdj1K9URzQDT9hlsdcr4PMcsL2byb6MCaomvtqUJvVUoIKNkHE$
> > > .
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Nicolas
> > >
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> > > From: Otavio Rodolfo Piske <angusyo...@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 10:26
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> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I think it would be OK to give it a try. Please, feel free to open a PR
> > > with this suggestion.
> > >
> > > Kind regards
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 10:22 AM Nicolas Filotto <nfilo...@talend.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > If the parallel build is something that can be used in the build
> > > pipeline,
> > > > why not simply starting by adding the -T option of maven to the
> > commands
> > > > launched by the build (
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/apache/camel/blob/main/.github/workflows/master-pr-build.yml*L39__;Iw!!CiXD_PY!EMmp3maGNIUrNLCyD1a__sEjX6IOh6rg2uTID5to5gtnpo19lPAOuN33k5dXjH0$
> > > )
> > > > as short/middle term solution before eventually considering the maven
> > > > daemon? What do you think of it?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Nicolas
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Otavio Rodolfo Piske <angusyo...@gmail.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 10:03
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> > > > Subject: Re: Parallel Build in Camel
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> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, that helps a bit, although it's still quite a lot. One day I'd
> > like
> > > > to take a closer look at some of the plugins we have on the build to
> > see
> > > if
> > > > there's some easy speed up we could do.
> > > >
> > > > As for the Github, I think we depend on 2 things:
> > > > 1. I believe we need a Github action that contains and runs maven
> > daemon
> > > > 2. I believe this action needs to be approved somehow by the ASF. I
> am
> > > not
> > > > sure about this, though ... maybe others in the community know more
> > about
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards
> > > >
> > > >
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