Hello Claus, +1 for this plan.
As an active member of the camel-quarkus project, I'm excited to start working towards Quarkus 3. I think it's a good plan to maintain LTS releases of Camel 3 at least for 2023 and maybe a part of 2024, to give time for users to move from Java 11 and Spring 5. Regards, --- Zineb Bendhiba Le ven. 25 nov. 2022 à 11:42, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> a écrit : > Hi > > This is a proposal for a plan for Apache Camel 4 and how this can affect > Camel 3. > > Summary > > ======= > > The overall scope is that the leap from Camel 3 to 4 is a lot less than > going from Camel 2 to 3. > > And that we have a timebox approach where we aim for a 6 month period of > work. > > The need for Camel v4 is mainly driven by Java open source projects > migrating to jakarta APIs, > > and to keep up with popular runtimes a la Spring Boot and Quarkus, and to > jump to the next major Java version. > > Goals > > ===== > > a) Primary Goals > > 1) Migrate from javax -> jakarta (JEE 10) > > 2) Java 17 as base line > > 3) Spring Framework 6 > > 4) Spring Boot 3 > > 5) Quarkus 3 > > b) Release Goals > > 6) Release only what is ready (JEE10 / Java17 etc) > > This means that Camel components that are not ready (yet) will be > dropped in a release until they are ready. > > 7) Release core + spring boot together > > 8) Release camel-karaf independently (like we do for other Camel projects) > > c) Major Goals > > 9) Support Java 17 features such as records, multiline strings, and what > else > > 10) EIP model without JAXB dependency > > 11) Endpoint URI parsing (do not use java.net.URI) > > 12) Deprecate message.getIn() > > use getMessage() instead > > 13) Deprecate camel-cdi > > 14) Deprecate/Remove MDC logging (complex and buggy and does not fit modern > app development) > > d) Minor Goals > > 15) Remove MEP InOptionalOut (not in use) > > 16) Remove JUnit 4 support > > > Timeline > > ======= > > The timelines are ESTIMATES and the number of releases can vary depending > on need and how far we are in the process > > Feb 2023: Camel 4.0 milestone 1 > > Mar 2023: Camel 4.0 milestone 2 > > Apr 2023: Camel 4.0 RC1 > > May 2023: Camel 4.0 > > Aug 2023: Camel 4.1 LTS > > Oct 2023: Camel 4.2 > > Dec 2023: Camel 4.3 LTS > > The plan is to start working on Camel 4 after the next Camel 3 LTS release, > e.g. 3.20 which is planned for next month (December 2022). > > For Camel 3 then we slow down in releases and provide 2 LTS releases per > year. > > For example a scheduled could look as follows: > > Dec 2022: Camel 3.20 LTS > > Jun 2023: Camel 3.21 LTS > > Dec 2023: Camel 3.22 LTS (last Camel v3 release, supported until Dec 2024) > ??? > > Jun 2024: Camel 3.23 LTS (last Camel v3 release, supported until Dec 2025) > ???? > > Each Camel 3 LTS release will likely also contain less new features and > improvements as previously, as our focus and work shifts to Camel v4 > instead. >
