The reason I brought up static columns was for cases where multiple statements update them and there could be ambiguity.
CREATE TABLE tbl { pk1 int, ck2 int, s3 static int, r4 static int, PRIMARY KEY (pk1, ck2) } BEGIN TRANSACTION UPDATE tbl SET s3=1, r4=1 WHERE pk1=1 AND ck2=1; UPDATE tbl SET s3=2, r4=2 WHERE pk1=1 AND ck2=2; COMMIT TRANSACTION What should the final value be for s3? This makes me realize I don't understand how upsert statements that touch the same row would be applied in general within a transaction. If the plan is for only-once-per-row within a transaction, then I think regular columns and static columns should be split into their own UPSERT statements. On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 10:40 AM Benedict Elliott Smith <bened...@apache.org> wrote: > I like Postgres' approach of letting you declare an exceptional condition > and failing if there is not precisely one result (though I would prefer to > differentiate between 0 row->Null and 2 rows->first row), but once you > permit coercing to NULL I think you have to then treat it like NULL and > permit arithmetic (that itself yields NULL) > > This is explicitly stipulated in ANSI SQL 92, in 6.12 <numeric value > expression>: > > General Rules > > 1) If the value of any <numeric primary> simply contained in a > <numeric value expression> is the null value, then the result > of > the <numeric value expression> is the null value. > > > On 2022/06/16 16:02:33 Blake Eggleston wrote: > > Yeah I'd say NULL is fine for condition evaluation. Reference assignment > is a little trickier. Assigning null to a column seems ok, but we should > raise an exception if they're doing math or something that expects a > non-null value > > > > > On Jun 16, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Benedict Elliott Smith < > bened...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > AFAICT that standard addresses server-side cursors, not the assignment > of a query result to a variable. Could you point to where it addresses > variable assignment? > > > > > > Postgres has a similar concept, SELECT INTO[1], and it explicitly > returns NULL if there are no result rows, unless STRICT is specified in > which case an error is returned. My recollection is that T-SQL is also fine > with coercing no results to NULL when assigning to a variable or using it > in a sub-expression. > > > > > > I'm in favour of expanding our functionality here, but I do not see > anything fundamentally problematic about the proposal as it stands. > > > > > > [1] > https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/plpgsql-statements.html#PLPGSQL-STATEMENTS-SQL-ONEROW > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2022/06/13 14:52:41 Konstantin Osipov wrote: > > >> * bened...@apache.org <bened...@apache.org> [22/06/13 17:37]: > > >>> I believe that is a MySQL specific concept. This is one problem with > mimicking SQL – it’s not one thing! > > >>> > > >>> In T-SQL, a Boolean expression is TRUE, FALSE or UNKNOWN[1], and a > NULL value submitted to a Boolean operator yields UNKNOWN. > > >>> > > >>> IF (X) THEN Y does not run Y if X is UNKNOWN; > > >>> IF (X) THEN Y ELSE Z does run Z if X is UNKNOWN. > > >>> > > >>> So, I think we have evidence that it is fine to interpret NULL > > >>> as “false” for the evaluation of IF conditions. > > >> > > >> NOT FOUND handler is in ISO/IEC 9075-4:2003 13.2 <handler declaration> > > >> > > >> In Cassandra results, there is no way to distinguish null values > > >> from absence of a row. Branching, thus, without being able to > > >> branch based on the absence of a row, whatever specific syntax > > >> is used for such branching, is incomplete. > > >> > > >> More broadly, SQL/PSM has exception and condition statements, not > > >> just IF statements. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Konstantin Osipov, Moscow, Russia > > >> > > > > >