All I say is we should be careful not to open the door for someone to be
able to set for a parameter in cassandra.yaml 512MiB and convert it to 0
GiB internally while changing those classes. Loss of precision and weird
settings. As long as that pandora box stays closed, all good 👍🏻

 I do support this new function addition proposed here, thank you!

On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 at 7:31, Jon Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com> wrote:

> I can’t see a good reason not to support it. Seems like extra work to
> avoid with no benefit.
>
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> Jon Haddad
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> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 7:16 AM Štefan Miklošovič <
> stefan.mikloso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Can you elaborate on intentionally not supporting some conversions? Are
>> we safe to base these conversions on DataStorageUnit? We have set of units
>> from BYTES to GIBIBYTES and respective methods on them which convert from
>> that unit to whatever else. Is this OK to be used for the purposes of this
>> feature? I would expect that once we have units like these and methods on
>> them to convert from-to, it can be reused in wherever else.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 4:06 PM Ekaterina Dimitrova <
>> e.dimitr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> All I am saying is be careful with adding those conversions not to end
>>> up used while setting our configuration. Thanks 🙏
>>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 at 6:53, Štefan Miklošovič <
>>> stefan.mikloso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, technically I do not need DataStorageSpec at all. All I need is
>>>> DataStorageUnit for that matter. That can convert from one unit to another
>>>> easily.
>>>>
>>>> We can omit tebibytes, that's just fine. People would need to live with
>>>> gibibytes at most in cqlsh output. They would not get 5 TiB but 5120 GiB, I
>>>> guess that is just enough to have a picture of what magnitude that value
>>>> looks like.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 3:36 PM Ekaterina Dimitrova <
>>>> e.dimitr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Quick comment:
>>>>>
>>>>> DataRateSpec, DataStorageSpec, or DurationSpec
>>>>> - we intentionally do not support going smaller to bigger size in
>>>>> those classes which are specific for cassandra.yaml - precision issues.
>>>>> Please keep it that way. That is why the notion of min unit was added in
>>>>> cassandra.yaml for parameters that are internally represented in a bigger
>>>>> unit.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure that people want to add TiB. There was explicit
>>>>> agreement what units we will allow in cassandra.yaml. I suspect any new
>>>>> units should be approved on the ML
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 at 5:55, Claude Warren, Jr via dev <
>>>>> dev@cassandra.apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> TiB is not yet in DataStorageSpec (perhaps we should add it).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A quick review tells me that all the units are unique across the 3
>>>>>> specs.  As long as we guarantee that in the future the method you propose
>>>>>> should be easily expandable to the other specs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 to this idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 12:26 PM Štefan Miklošovič <
>>>>>> stefan.mikloso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is a very interesting point, Claude. My so-far implementation
>>>>>>> is using FileUtils.stringifyFileSize which is just dividing a value by a
>>>>>>> respective divisor based on how big a value is. While this works, it 
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> prevent you from specifying what unit you want that value to be 
>>>>>>> converted
>>>>>>> to as well as it will prevent you from specifying what unit a value you
>>>>>>> provided is of. So, for example, if a column is known to be in kibibytes
>>>>>>> and we want that to be converted into gibibytes, that won't be possible
>>>>>>> because that function will think that a value is in bytes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would be more appropriate to have something like this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to_human_size(val) -> alias to FileUtils.stringifyFileSize, without
>>>>>>> any source nor target unit, it will consider it to be in bytes and it 
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> convert it like in FileUtils.stringifyFileSize
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to_human_size(val, 'MiB') -> alias for to_human_size(val, 'B', 'MiB')
>>>>>>> to_human_size(val, 'GiB') -> alias for to_human_size(val, 'B', 'GiB')
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the first argument is the source unit, the second argument is target
>>>>>>> unit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to_human_size(val, 'B', 'MiB')
>>>>>>> to_human_size(val, 'B', 'GiB')
>>>>>>> to_human_size(val, 'KiB', 'GiB')
>>>>>>> to_human_size(val, 'KiB', 'TiB')
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think this is more flexible and we should funnel this via
>>>>>>> DataStorageSpec and similar as you mentioned.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the future, we might also add to_human_duration which would be
>>>>>>> implemented against DurationSpec so similar conversions are possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 10:53 AM Claude Warren, Jr via dev <
>>>>>>> dev@cassandra.apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I like the idea.  Is the intention to have the of the function be
>>>>>>>> parsable by the config  parsers like DataRateSpec, DataStorageSpec, or
>>>>>>>> DurationSpec?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Claude
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 9:47 PM Ariel Weisberg <ar...@weisberg.ws>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think it’s a good quality of life improvement, but I am someone
>>>>>>>>> who believes in a rich set of built-in functions being a good thing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A format function is a bit more scope and kind of orthogonal. It
>>>>>>>>> would still be good to have shorthand functions for things like size.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ariel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024, at 8:09 AM, Štefan Miklošovič wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I want to propose CASSANDRA-19546. It would be possible to convert
>>>>>>>>> raw numbers to something human-friendly.
>>>>>>>>> There are cases when we write just a number of bytes in our system
>>>>>>>>> tables but these numbers are just hard to parse visually. Users can 
>>>>>>>>> indeed
>>>>>>>>> use this for their tables too if they find it useful.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, a user can indeed write a UDF for this but I would prefer if
>>>>>>>>> we had something baked in.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does this make sense to people? Are there any other approaches to
>>>>>>>>> do this?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-19546
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra/pull/3239/files
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>

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