Hi Stefan,

Thanks for bringing this CEP for discussion. I think it's a good feature, but
I would like to have the ability to define some suffix or prefix to the name of
the role. Thinking from an operator point of view, this would help to visually
identify the type of role we are generating. Let's say you have a role that is
allowed to read and write data to the cluster, then I'd like to either prefix or
suffix the role name with _read_write. And if I have a read only user, I'd like
to do the same with the _read_only suffix. I haven't really thought through
about what the grammar would look like if we were to support
prefixes/suffixes, but this is one idea:

cassandra@cqlsh>  CREATE GENERATED ROLE WITH SUFFIX _read_only;

 generated_role_name
----------------------------------------
b97ef7fcfd_read_only

I think this makes the role name less cryptic and more operator friendly.

Let me know your thoughts on this.

Best,
- Francisco

On 2025/09/08 20:14:26 Dinesh Joshi wrote:
> This is a great feature to have Stefan. Like you already pointed, it pairs
> really well with CEP-24. I am only concerned about scripts going crazy and
> generating way too many accounts. Do you have any plans for throttling or
> placing a limit on the number of auto-generated accounts that could be
> created by an admin?
> 
> It would be nice if these accounts could be TTL'd after a set period of
> time of inactivity. I'm thinking from a testing standpoint where you want
> to create a fresh account and not worry about cleaning up because Cassandra
> could TTL it automatically. I recognize this will expand the scope of your
> CEP and I'll be happy to work on contributing to it. Alternatively, if you
> think it might be better to have this as a separate CEP that's ok too.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dinesh
> 
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2025 at 6:35 AM Štefan Miklošovič <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi list,
> >
> > I would like to propose CEP-55. It is about the ability to create users /
> > roles without specifying names ourselves.
> >
> > This is a very handy feature for systems where we want to have a way for
> > the system to generate user names / role names for us by some predefined
> > manner. If there is a company deploying clusters in some automated manner /
> > on demand, the creation of user names / roles is left to an operator to
> > figure out. This task can be delegated to cluster and user name / role name
> > would be returned as part of CQL response.
> >
> > This feature might be also used e.g. for demo / evaluation purposes, for
> > creation of technical users where role names do not matter, or for
> > increased security where role names would not be leaked in logs.
> >
> > This is quite a powerful technique, especially with CEP-24 / password
> > generation, where an operator just has to execute:
> >
> > CREATE GENERATED USER WITH GENERATED PASSWORD;
> >
> > and both (valid) name and password would be returned.
> >
> > (1)
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/CEP-55+Generated+role+names
> >
> 

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